For the eyes of 1x compression sailors of only

Target · 02-21-07, 04:47 PM

I hesitate to start this thread, but if you have no interest in this, no need to apply.
Anyone interested in starting a single time compression league of sorts for SH4? This title may be alittle misleading, as I believe that there will be need to use some TC to get through the peaceful areas. We could pick a line of demarkation. At this line we would then require that the TC be kept under an agreed upon compression. From there a member would be required to go to 1x as soon as a contact is made or investigating a reported vsl sighting. The time would be kept at 1x until the enemy is sunk or the investigation reveals a non-target. At which time the capt. can once again engage warp factor whatever is agreed upon allowable within the patrol area. stats kept and no time limit on the member's patrol. In other words if someone wants to be real hardcore he or she can do 1x from the time he or she gets underway until they return to port. Just a thought.

Ducimus · 02-21-07, 04:52 PM

A friendly suggestion for you X1 TC folks;

Pick a different post title. Human nature being what it is, subject titles like the one here just begs attention from the peanut gallery

trenken · 02-21-07, 04:56 PM

I never tried doing 1x for long periods of time, but when you do that, isn't there a possibility that days straight could pass by and you not see any action?

flintlock · 02-21-07, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

begs attention from the peanut gallery

Boris · 02-21-07, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken

I never tried doing 1x for long periods of time, but when you do that, isn't there a possibility that days straight could pass by and you not see any action?

Yes, that's why the very notion is insane, and you have to be retired or unemployed to do it.

Sulikate · 02-21-07, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

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Originally Posted by trenken

I never tried doing 1x for long periods of time, but when you do that, isn't there a possibility that days straight could pass by and you not see any action?

Yes, that's why the very notion is insane, and you have to be retired or unemployed to do it.

I can't live without TC as well. It would be crazy for me to play a one week long patrol

Sailor Steve · 02-21-07, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Target

I hesitate to start this thread, but if you have no interest in this, no need to apply.

Target, I was going to honor your request and stay away this time, since everybody knows I criticize the concept of 1x play and most know why. Instead, I'd now like to apologize for all my fellows who couldn't keep quiet.:rotfl:

If you want my opinions on the subject of course I'm glad to give them, but for now I'm staying out of your playground. I wish you all the best.

Donner · 02-21-07, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by trenken

I never tried doing 1x for long periods of time...

Neither have I!

The only way I would ever attempt this is to use TC as needed for a 24-hour game period...for instance, on Monday I 'tc' from 0000 1 July 1943 to 0000 2 July 1943...then save the game and reload it on Tuesday and 'tc' from 0000 2 July to 0000 3 July and save....rinse, repeat.

In this way, I would be "conducting" a '1x TC' patrol and yet I'm not be limited to one career for days or weeks on end.

But in all honesty, I'll probably never do that either.

Just a suggestion for those so inclined....

Good Luck!

trenken · 02-21-07, 07:20 PM

Well people can play the game however they want. If someone has a thing for 1x only then that's cool. Naturally people are going to have an opinion and like to chime in. I'm sure that whoever likes to play in this fashion enjoys the full realism and roleplay of actually feeling like their out to sea on a real patrol. I can sort of see the appeal in that regardless of the fact that I would never commit to something like that.

nattydread · 02-21-07, 09:20 PM

I like the idea, i wish there was a persistent or semi-persistent server that allowed for this. i'd literally leave the game on all day, while I slept, while at work/school, etc. Basically you'd be living your life and doing other stuff...But when you get that contact, boy oh boy, your heart will race, you'll drop whatever your doing and run to that computer!
Then mental toughness and patience and discipline enter into teh equation. The complacent convoy operater, or sub skipper loses out. If you miss a chance to attack because your sleep or at work wont matter...because you'll never know! Now if your convoy gets sunk, thats something else altogether...perhaps some simple AI orders can be given in when AFK( zig-zag, escorts active ping, zig-zag if attacked, split up, escorts serch and attack if attacked or contact made, etc, etc)

Anyway, Im willing to give it a try.

AJ! · 02-22-07, 04:30 AM

Yeah i do like the idea... seems cool to have a patrol with such realistic time scale :p

But then again i dont think i could play without TC... i cant spend more then 2 hours on a patrol unless its completely action packed on the edge of your seat sort of stuff

Target · 02-22-07, 10:16 AM

The TC issue can be tailored to fit your schedule. Like I said above, we might allow some level of TC, just agree on markers where TC use is taboo. Nautical miles from target or reported target might be one, for example, or anytime you are within a 20-30 nautical mile radius of a target TC is also taboo.

We can also incorporate extra points awarded in the stats for different levels of TC use. Here a person who does his or her patrol at 1x might be awarded 100% more just for the 1x TC use. From here it can be graduated. So if a person uses the max TC allowable throughout the patrol, they would need to sink more ships to stay with those who don't use any TC.

In this an enviroment can be set which can accomodate everyone but the max TC all the time user. I would say for transit max TC can be used (as much as I liked to get underway in the real world... sometimes this would have been nice). Once at the given patrol area (it would be nice to be able to order up our own patrol areas) then the TC usage would be limited to a max of, say, 64 (not set in stone). Again, no TC usage would be in order at some point during the patrol otherwise what's the point? Personally, with SH3 I try to keep my TC down to 64 until I either get a contact report or a sound report, then I like to stay at 1x until the target is sunk.

But this project isn't meant to be organized around one individual's ideas. The organizing body would have to come to agreement on the parameters.

difool2 · 02-22-07, 10:33 AM

My install (GWX) brings up a pop-up window when a contact is sighted. That way it
will remain paused until you can get home and deal with the opportunity.

Iron Budokan · 02-22-07, 11:28 AM

I play !x often. Not all the time, but often. Will I play a totally 1x patrol in SH4? Nope. Leaving Lorient to go fight on the westward approaches is a heck of a lot different from leaving Pearl to go into the Yellow Sea.

Now once I TC across the Pacific then I may stick to 1X while I'm on patrol. But, no, I won't do a totally 1x patrol in SH4. I like 1x, am a big believer in it...but that darn Pacific is just too big!

Target · 02-22-07, 01:00 PM

Did you actually read what I wrote Iron Budokan?

And let me make myself clear, I'm not addressing anyone who isn't interested in this project, so please don't waste my time by making me read your reply to assertain whether or not you're interested. Y'all need to mind your own business and if you don't like it. as we used to say, go pound sand. You don't see me sticking my nose into a thread I don't agree with. I'm too old to listen to whinners who have nothing good to say about something that isn't mandatory.

02-21-07, 04:47 PM	#1
Target Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For the eyes of 1x compression sailors of only I hesitate to start this thread, but if you have no interest in this, no need to apply. Anyone interested in starting a single time compression league of sorts for SH4? This title may be alittle misleading, as I believe that there will be need to use some TC to get through the peaceful areas. We could pick a line of demarkation. At this line we would then require that the TC be kept under an agreed upon compression. From there a member would be required to go to 1x as soon as a contact is made or investigating a reported vsl sighting. The time would be kept at 1x until the enemy is sunk or the investigation reveals a non-target. At which time the capt. can once again engage warp factor whatever is agreed upon allowable within the patrol area. stats kept and no time limit on the member's patrol. In other words if someone wants to be real hardcore he or she can do 1x from the time he or she gets underway until they return to port. Just a thought.

02-22-07, 04:30 AM	#11
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah i do like the idea... seems cool to have a patrol with such realistic time scale :p But then again i dont think i could play without TC... i cant spend more then 2 hours on a patrol unless its completely action packed on the edge of your seat sort of stuff __________________

02-22-07, 11:28 AM	#14
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I play !x often. Not all the time, but often. Will I play a totally 1x patrol in SH4? Nope. Leaving Lorient to go fight on the westward approaches is a heck of a lot different from leaving Pearl to go into the Yellow Sea. Now once I TC across the Pacific then I may stick to 1X while I'm on patrol. But, no, I won't do a totally 1x patrol in SH4. I like 1x, am a big believer in it...but that darn Pacific is just too big! __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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02-21-07, 04:52 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	A friendly suggestion for you X1 TC folks; Pick a different post title. Human nature being what it is, subject titles like the one here just begs attention from the peanut gallery

02-21-07, 04:56 PM	#3
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I never tried doing 1x for long periods of time, but when you do that, isn't there a possibility that days straight could pass by and you not see any action?

02-21-07, 07:20 PM	#9
trenken Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 565 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well people can play the game however they want. If someone has a thing for 1x only then that's cool. Naturally people are going to have an opinion and like to chime in. I'm sure that whoever likes to play in this fashion enjoys the full realism and roleplay of actually feeling like their out to sea on a real patrol. I can sort of see the appeal in that regardless of the fact that I would never commit to something like that.

02-21-07, 09:20 PM	#10
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I like the idea, i wish there was a persistent or semi-persistent server that allowed for this. i'd literally leave the game on all day, while I slept, while at work/school, etc. Basically you'd be living your life and doing other stuff...But when you get that contact, boy oh boy, your heart will race, you'll drop whatever your doing and run to that computer! Then mental toughness and patience and discipline enter into teh equation. The complacent convoy operater, or sub skipper loses out. If you miss a chance to attack because your sleep or at work wont matter...because you'll never know! Now if your convoy gets sunk, thats something else altogether...perhaps some simple AI orders can be given in when AFK( zig-zag, escorts active ping, zig-zag if attacked, split up, escorts serch and attack if attacked or contact made, etc, etc) Anyway, Im willing to give it a try.

02-22-07, 10:16 AM	#12
Target Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The TC issue can be tailored to fit your schedule. Like I said above, we might allow some level of TC, just agree on markers where TC use is taboo. Nautical miles from target or reported target might be one, for example, or anytime you are within a 20-30 nautical mile radius of a target TC is also taboo. We can also incorporate extra points awarded in the stats for different levels of TC use. Here a person who does his or her patrol at 1x might be awarded 100% more just for the 1x TC use. From here it can be graduated. So if a person uses the max TC allowable throughout the patrol, they would need to sink more ships to stay with those who don't use any TC. In this an enviroment can be set which can accomodate everyone but the max TC all the time user. I would say for transit max TC can be used (as much as I liked to get underway in the real world... sometimes this would have been nice). Once at the given patrol area (it would be nice to be able to order up our own patrol areas) then the TC usage would be limited to a max of, say, 64 (not set in stone). Again, no TC usage would be in order at some point during the patrol otherwise what's the point? Personally, with SH3 I try to keep my TC down to 64 until I either get a contact report or a sound report, then I like to stay at 1x until the target is sunk. But this project isn't meant to be organized around one individual's ideas. The organizing body would have to come to agreement on the parameters.

02-22-07, 10:33 AM	#13
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	My install (GWX) brings up a pop-up window when a contact is sighted. That way it will remain paused until you can get home and deal with the opportunity.

02-22-07, 01:00 PM	#15
Target Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Did you actually read what I wrote Iron Budokan? And let me make myself clear, I'm not addressing anyone who isn't interested in this project, so please don't waste my time by making me read your reply to assertain whether or not you're interested. Y'all need to mind your own business and if you don't like it. as we used to say, go pound sand. You don't see me sticking my nose into a thread I don't agree with. I'm too old to listen to whinners who have nothing good to say about something that isn't mandatory.