Death of SHIII? - Page 6

STEED · 02-12-07, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

April 1st 2007

:rotfl:

Rykaird · 02-12-07, 02:21 PM

SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts.

The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it.

I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary.

We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

Iron Budokan · 02-12-07, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rykaird

SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts.

The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it.

I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary.

We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

I agree the mystique surrounding the u-boats far outstrips the more prosaic American counterparts in the Pacific. Having said that (and not wishing to take anything away from the brave men who died on both sides) I will still buy SH4 when it comes out.

But I see myself returning again and again to SH3 in the future....

Jimbuna · 02-12-07, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

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Originally Posted by Rykaird

SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts.

The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it.

I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary.

We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

I agree the mystique surrounding the u-boats far outstrips the more prosaic American counterparts in the Pacific. Having said that (and not wishing to take anything away from the brave men who died on both sides) I will still buy SH4 when it comes out.

But I see myself returning again and again to SH3 in the future....

very well put kaleun

CaptainAsh · 02-12-07, 03:51 PM

It s also a matter of game style...
The main purpose of SHIII is to hunt merchant, expecialy in convoy and to avoid being bashed my the big watching dog

If I m correct SHIV will be a lot more like subs against warship on battle field... it s not the same atmosphere at all...

Jimbuna · 02-12-07, 04:08 PM

To put it in one of many ways:

The U-boats never sank more than approx. 3% of the available Allied merchant tonnage

The US nigh on sank all (80%+) of the Japanese available merchant tonnage

CaptainAsh · 02-12-07, 04:19 PM

So I am wrong :hmm:

AVGWarhawk · 02-12-07, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainAsh

So I am wrong :hmm:

Not really, I believe there will be assignments in your career. Pick up pilots in the ocean. Drop off commandos, etc. I think you orders will be more than just an assigned grid like SH3.

thefretmaster · 02-12-07, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by CaptainAsh

So I am wrong :hmm:

Not really, I believe there will be assignments in your career. Pick up pilots in the ocean. Drop off commandos, etc. I think you orders will be more than just an assigned grid like SH3.

i think this alone will draw some players in, i think some people are put off of these games if they are looking for missions and that, when the campaign could be a tad more exciting (i like the patrolls but feel they can drag on a bit i like the action!) i think these randomly scripted "mini missions" will add a lot to the game, and will add some emersion, i think you will feel that you are actually fighting for somthing

Rykaird · 02-12-07, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by CaptainAsh

So I am wrong :hmm:

Not really, I believe there will be assignments in your career. Pick up pilots in the ocean. Drop off commandos, etc. I think you orders will be more than just an assigned grid like SH3.

The dropping off of commandos on a Japanese island sounds just like the movie "Up Periscope." Good book too. That would be fun.

High Voltage · 02-12-07, 08:18 PM

The Pacific campaign was also interesting for subs because there were a lot more areas of clear, shallow water, that really tested the crew's ability to approach land safely without being detected...
I look forward to seeing what surprises they'll throw our way.

BTW, just heard on the news yesterday that UBI is looking to hire another 1500 people in the next year. SH5 should be ready by August, no?

corvette k225 · 02-12-07, 09:50 PM

For me the North Atlantic is the best, and besides playing the US side will not sale
world wide as many SHIV, you see the folks across the pond I think will enjoy the
North Atlantic side better because. It always has a little history there, I think the
sales for Silent Hunter IV, will not be a great as Silent Hunter III, (world wide)

Ducimus · 02-12-07, 10:09 PM

I honestly think that the major reason alot of people outside of the US wont get into SH4, is simply because it deals with American's.

flintlock · 02-12-07, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by corvette k225

I think the sales for Silent Hunter IV, will not be a great as Silent Hunter III, (world wide)

It's all speculation at this stage, but based on the improvements and enhancements made to SH4 over it's predecesor, I believe the sales will be stronger. Hopefully Ubisoft will have a more aggresive marketing campaign this time around. In the end, if the sales are strong, we all win as it bodes well for the continuation and growth of this wonderful franchise.

flintlock · 02-12-07, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I honestly think that the major reason alot of people outside of the US wont get into SH4, is simply because it deals with American's.

I don't think that's necessarily true. With some American Civil War strategy games, I'm always surprised to read how many people from around the world enjoy them, yet initially know little or nothing of the ACW. Plus, the bottom line is that SH4 looks to be an amazing sub sim, so on that merit alone it will likely attract a broad geographical base of fans.

02-12-07, 04:08 PM	#81
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	To put it in one of many ways: The U-boats never sank more than approx. 3% of the available Allied merchant tonnage The US nigh on sank all (80%+) of the Japanese available merchant tonnage __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-12-07, 08:18 PM	#86
High Voltage Chief Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: U-33. Depth Charges...sinking.. Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The Pacific campaign was also interesting for subs because there were a lot more areas of clear, shallow water, that really tested the crew's ability to approach land safely without being detected... I look forward to seeing what surprises they'll throw our way. BTW, just heard on the news yesterday that UBI is looking to hire another 1500 people in the next year. SH5 should be ready by August, no? __________________ The new-moon night is black as ink. Off Hatteras the tankers sink. While sadly Roosevelt counts the score-- Some fifty thousand tons--by MOHR

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02-12-07, 02:21 PM	#77
Rykaird Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 356 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	SHIII is the most immersive sim I've ever played (I was up to 3am last night, sending Tommy a love note written on the side of a torpedo, while listening to German drinking music from the 40's on the gramophone). But I do find that graphics help with immersion, so that's the single biggest draw for SHIV for me. But I have my doubts. The thing I love most about SHIII/GWX isn't the act of plotting on the nav table or lining up torpedo shots - it's that I am a U-Boat Kapitan-Lieutenant. I know the "happy days" of 1939/1940 are over. I know my side is going to lose the war. I know I'm almost certain to die. I know my country is led by madmen. But it's still my country, and it's still my duty. It's a hard life and a short one, but there's a beautiful, noble, doomed poetry about it. I don't get any sense of that fighting on the US side, where I have every confidence we'll win, that our cause is just, our leaders are good folks, and that I have some hope I'll make it out alive. As a US Navy skipper, I'm merely trying to be excellent at what amounts to a job. It just seems kind of, well, ordinary. We'll see. I'm going to give it a shot, because it looks so pretty.

02-12-07, 03:51 PM	#80
CaptainAsh Machinist's Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	It s also a matter of game style... The main purpose of SHIII is to hunt merchant, expecialy in convoy and to avoid being bashed my the big watching dog If I m correct SHIV will be a lot more like subs against warship on battle field... it s not the same atmosphere at all...

02-12-07, 04:19 PM	#82
CaptainAsh Machinist's Mate Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	So I am wrong :hmm:

02-12-07, 09:50 PM	#87
corvette k225 Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: USA Posts: 254 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	For me the North Atlantic is the best, and besides playing the US side will not sale world wide as many SHIV, you see the folks across the pond I think will enjoy the North Atlantic side better because. It always has a little history there, I think the sales for Silent Hunter IV, will not be a great as Silent Hunter III, (world wide)

02-12-07, 10:09 PM	#88
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I honestly think that the major reason alot of people outside of the US wont get into SH4, is simply because it deals with American's.