Dipping bullets in pork to demoralize terrorists.

The Noob · 02-09-07, 11:29 AM

This is illogical and primitive.

Letum · 02-09-07, 11:59 AM

The British army tried this in India in the colonial days.
It was a total failure and caused a huge increase in the violence against the colonialists.

Then, as now, it should be obvious why this idea is a very poor one.

bradclark1 · 02-09-07, 02:33 PM

Put the thing in perspective for goodness sake.

Tchocky · 02-09-07, 02:36 PM

This forum is bloody hilarious today....

"Lets dip bullets in pork"

Camaero · 02-09-07, 03:16 PM

If it pisses off terrorists, then good. They are pigs anyway.

CCIP · 02-09-07, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Noob

This is illogical and primitive.

Even the forum's official noob says so.

Come on people - whatever they are, what are you achieving by dipping bullets in pork? I'd understand if the pork made the bullets faster or more deadly, but geez.

The pork is not for the dead. It doesn't matter to a dead terrorist whether he's been shot with lead, pork or coleslaw. The pork is to piss off the living, and will inspire more hate, including in those who might not have been terrorist to begin with.

This is indeed very primitive. You might as well start parading heads on stakes and re-introduce the gibbet for displaying your latest terrorist. Cause the message you're delivering with this is equivalent

robbo180265 · 02-09-07, 03:34 PM

Phew!! at least a couple of you saw what I was getting at. The more you alienate Muslims the more terrorists you create. Don't give them any more reasons to hate us.

Remember we Brits had that attitude in Northern Ireland and look where it got us.

Every time something like that film gets an airing another terrorist is born!

Onkel Neal · 02-09-07, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Phew!! at least a couple of you saw what I was getting at. The more you alienate Muslims the more terrorists you create. Don't give them any more reasons to hate us.

Remember we Brits had that attitude in Northern Ireland and look where it got us.

Every time something like that film gets an airing another terrorist is born!

Ok, then let's carve little Koran scriptures in the bullets

bradclark1 · 02-09-07, 03:53 PM

And people wounder why PC runs rampant.

ASWnut101 · 02-09-07, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Phew!! at least a couple of you saw what I was getting at. The more you alienate Muslims the more terrorists you create. Don't give them any more reasons to hate us.

Remember we Brits had that attitude in Northern Ireland and look where it got us.

Every time something like that film gets an airing another terrorist is born!

Ok, then let's carve little Koran scriptures in the bullets

:rotfl: I love those single-post one-liners from you! I recon that this will be the only post of your's until the thread gets locked... really nice.:p

Skybird · 02-09-07, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Phew!! at least a couple of you saw what I was getting at. The more you alienate Muslims the more terrorists you create. Don't give them any more reasons to hate us.

Remember we Brits had that attitude in Northern Ireland and look where it got us.

Every time something like that film gets an airing another terrorist is born!

Ok, then let's carve little Koran scriptures in the bullets

:rotfl: I love those single-post one-liners from you! I recon that this will be the only post of your's until the thread gets locked... really nice.:p

Yes, I noted that comment too. Neal's one-liners are doomed to become classics one day.

dean_acheson · 02-09-07, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Phew!! at least a couple of you saw what I was getting at. The more you alienate Muslims the more terrorists you create. Don't give them any more reasons to hate us.

Remember we Brits had that attitude in Northern Ireland and look where it got us.

Every time something like that film gets an airing another terrorist is born!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevil_Chamberlain

Did you vote for this guy?

Since when do crazy islamic fanantics worry that flying airplanes into buildings and killing thousnads of innocent people will alienate folks in the west?

robbo180265 · 02-09-07, 04:03 PM

Then again maybe you didn't

Boris · 02-09-07, 04:20 PM

Funny on the face of it... but this is another one of those little things that equates muslims and islam to terrorism.

Most people don't seem to realise that the war on terror is in fact against terrorism and not a crusade against islam.

This will probably just anger muslims in general, and create more terrorists.

Here's a great little flash game for you guys to play:

http://www.newsgaming.com/games/index12.htm

Skybird · 02-09-07, 05:07 PM

Reciprocity is the magical word for me. Treat them the same way their scriptures demand them to treat us infidels. Take the same attitude and stand towards them like they take towards us. Practice the very same kind of "dhimmitudish" ruling towards Muhammedan living in the West, like the Quran teaches Muhammedans to practice towards infidels in Muhameddan spheres of influence. Declare the right to claim land you set your foot into to be your own until all end of time, and make it a law to deal brutally with every Westerner not agreeing with this and question your motives.

If their teachings are right, if we copy them this way it should lead to global peace, tolerance, and serve the best of the single one, and the best of all mankind. If it does not acchieve this, than it means their teachings are not worth the breath it takes to speak them out.

Try to find historical evidence for the Islamic claim that it is about peace. What you find is the history of the biggest and longest and most far-leading military conquest of human history. Neither the Romans, nor the Mongoles nor the chinese kingdoms nor the age of European imperialism or the German Nazis can rival it.

And if such reciprocity in dealing with Islam leads to even more intolerance and violance and hate and wishes for submission in the world, then it means that their teachings are bad and evil. For a recipe that works bad when being used by an infidel, cannot suddenly be any better if it is used by a Muhameddan.

Stop having wellmeaning and self-deceiving illusions about Islam. Look at the status it led Islamic societies to over the last 14 centuries. If Islam is so right and wonderful, why did it lead Arabic societies to social stagnation, and loosing the educatioinal and scientific superiority Arabia had over Europe in the Medieval - before Muhammed appeared?

Why is a man who intimidated others, forced their surrender by violence, gave orders for assassination, blackmailed protection money, massacred whole tribes and murdered even male children of even the yolungest ages while leading all females into slavery and sexual exploitation, who started and ordered 60-70 wars and predatory raids, and whose only idea to defend himself against criticism was to throw critics into prisons, murder them and claim that he was acting in the name of some god - why is such a Mafiosi and mass-murderer still accepted as a holy man, a preacher of peace and freedom - when all he had to show in his deeds was submitting others, act with aggression, teach hate and intolerance against all who refused his authority and power, rob others, and wade in blood thoughout the better part of his life...???

Judge Islam - not by our standards, but by it's own standard. Learn to differ between what you want it to be (with the intention to make it something that you can deal with according to your own standards and instruments), and what it really is. Stop being a fool. Start to be a realist. Stop reading the Quran. Read history books. And then try to find parrallels to the teachings of humanistic philosphers of the West, Buddha or Jesus. You will fail. Islam is the anti-thesis to it all. It is not the victim, but the perpetrator. where it is violant, it does not violate it's teachings, but fulfills them.

Islam says that all what is is it's own sooner or later, and that it has the obligation to help that fate to become fulfilled. You bettter start to take that serious. the history of the Nazi'S rise shows that you do need only a gang of five or ten determined thugs taking on their black gloves to intimidate and make stopping to maove and make turning around a demonstration column of hundreds.

Stop being so awfully cowardly in the face of the challenge of Islam's demand to be the ruler of all world, man, society, and culture. Confront it and turn it's own standards and values against itself. Not more, not less.

1:1 reciprocity. Just this, for the better - or the worse. Reciprocity. See yourself where it leads you.

02-09-07, 11:59 AM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The British army tried this in India in the colonial days. It was a total failure and caused a huge increase in the violence against the colonialists. Then, as now, it should be obvious why this idea is a very poor one. __________________

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	This forum is bloody hilarious today.... "Lets dip bullets in pork" __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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02-09-07, 11:29 AM	#1
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is illogical and primitive.

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bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Put the thing in perspective for goodness sake.

02-09-07, 03:34 PM	#7
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Phew!! at least a couple of you saw what I was getting at. The more you alienate Muslims the more terrorists you create. Don't give them any more reasons to hate us. Remember we Brits had that attitude in Northern Ireland and look where it got us. Every time something like that film gets an airing another terrorist is born!

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bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	And people wounder why PC runs rampant.

02-09-07, 04:03 PM	#13
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Then again maybe you didn't

02-09-07, 04:20 PM	#14
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Funny on the face of it... but this is another one of those little things that equates muslims and islam to terrorism. Most people don't seem to realise that the war on terror is in fact against terrorism and not a crusade against islam. This will probably just anger muslims in general, and create more terrorists. Here's a great little flash game for you guys to play: http://www.newsgaming.com/games/index12.htm

02-09-07, 05:07 PM	#15
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,803 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Reciprocity is the magical word for me. Treat them the same way their scriptures demand them to treat us infidels. Take the same attitude and stand towards them like they take towards us. Practice the very same kind of "dhimmitudish" ruling towards Muhammedan living in the West, like the Quran teaches Muhammedans to practice towards infidels in Muhameddan spheres of influence. Declare the right to claim land you set your foot into to be your own until all end of time, and make it a law to deal brutally with every Westerner not agreeing with this and question your motives. If their teachings are right, if we copy them this way it should lead to global peace, tolerance, and serve the best of the single one, and the best of all mankind. If it does not acchieve this, than it means their teachings are not worth the breath it takes to speak them out. Try to find historical evidence for the Islamic claim that it is about peace. What you find is the history of the biggest and longest and most far-leading military conquest of human history. Neither the Romans, nor the Mongoles nor the chinese kingdoms nor the age of European imperialism or the German Nazis can rival it. And if such reciprocity in dealing with Islam leads to even more intolerance and violance and hate and wishes for submission in the world, then it means that their teachings are bad and evil. For a recipe that works bad when being used by an infidel, cannot suddenly be any better if it is used by a Muhameddan. Stop having wellmeaning and self-deceiving illusions about Islam. Look at the status it led Islamic societies to over the last 14 centuries. If Islam is so right and wonderful, why did it lead Arabic societies to social stagnation, and loosing the educatioinal and scientific superiority Arabia had over Europe in the Medieval - before Muhammed appeared? Why is a man who intimidated others, forced their surrender by violence, gave orders for assassination, blackmailed protection money, massacred whole tribes and murdered even male children of even the yolungest ages while leading all females into slavery and sexual exploitation, who started and ordered 60-70 wars and predatory raids, and whose only idea to defend himself against criticism was to throw critics into prisons, murder them and claim that he was acting in the name of some god - why is such a Mafiosi and mass-murderer still accepted as a holy man, a preacher of peace and freedom - when all he had to show in his deeds was submitting others, act with aggression, teach hate and intolerance against all who refused his authority and power, rob others, and wade in blood thoughout the better part of his life...??? Judge Islam - not by our standards, but by it's own standard. Learn to differ between what you want it to be (with the intention to make it something that you can deal with according to your own standards and instruments), and what it really is. Stop being a fool. Start to be a realist. Stop reading the Quran. Read history books. And then try to find parrallels to the teachings of humanistic philosphers of the West, Buddha or Jesus. You will fail. Islam is the anti-thesis to it all. It is not the victim, but the perpetrator. where it is violant, it does not violate it's teachings, but fulfills them. Islam says that all what is is it's own sooner or later, and that it has the obligation to help that fate to become fulfilled. You bettter start to take that serious. the history of the Nazi'S rise shows that you do need only a gang of five or ten determined thugs taking on their black gloves to intimidate and make stopping to maove and make turning around a demonstration column of hundreds. Stop being so awfully cowardly in the face of the challenge of Islam's demand to be the ruler of all world, man, society, and culture. Confront it and turn it's own standards and values against itself. Not more, not less. 1:1 reciprocity. Just this, for the better - or the worse. Reciprocity. See yourself where it leads you.