Gato vs. VIIC

flintlock · 02-05-07, 06:31 PM

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I'm still in love with the laundry facility, shower and ice cream machine.

Don't forget those linoleum floors.

If I had to choose to skipper one, I'd take that superior German engineering in a heartbeat!

Boris · 02-05-07, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by flintlock

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I'm still in love with the laundry facility, shower and ice cream machine.

Don't forget those linoleum floors.

If I had to choose to skipper one, I'd take that superior German engineeering in a heartbeat!

:rotfl:Or were they vinyl? :hmm:

flintlock · 02-05-07, 06:59 PM

lol, I believe we established it was linoleum.

flyingdane · 02-05-07, 07:21 PM

You can't compaire the two, GATO=

and 9c=

so there..HaHaHa

..BOO!

b1bmsgt · 02-05-07, 08:40 PM

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Considering the size and number of eels of the gato, the IX is a much better comparison.

U-Boat = Eels

US Boat = Fish

Just keepin' it real, dawg...

Russ

Iron Budokan · 02-05-07, 11:44 PM

Thanks guys, that's all info I didn't know, and the comparison has helped me see both boats differently.

Weren't the VIICs pretty much built just for war and nothing else? What I mean is, there were very little comforts on the VIICs, they were war vessels, period, and not meant to serve in the fleet a really long time. Isn't that right?

CCIP · 02-06-07, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

Weren't the VIICs pretty much built just for war and nothing else? What I mean is, there were very little comforts on the VIICs, they were war vessels, period, and not meant to serve in the fleet a really long time. Isn't that right?

Well I think it's true that the reason Germans excluded many comforts was that they wouldn't sacrifice any performance for that!

That said, I think there again is the difference in philosophy - American boats were built for longer fleet operations, with the comforts accounted for.

Mind you, some German boats still served in various Allied navies for years after the war...

Fat Bhoy Tim · 02-06-07, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by flintlock

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I'm still in love with the laundry facility, shower and ice cream machine.

Don't forget those linoleum floors.

If I had to choose to skipper one, I'd take that superior German engineering in a heartbeat!

Superior German (over) engineering is one of the major things that lost them the war mind you.

DanCanovas · 02-06-07, 09:38 AM

German boats were well constructed enabling them the operate deeper and more resistant to damage. US boats on the other hand were able to operate for longer periods and were equipped with this in mind.

flintlock · 02-06-07, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

Superior German (over) engineering is one of the major things that lost them the war mind you.

High quality engineering is a German trait in general. Though I agree, insofar as the war effort was concerened, their penchant for excellency in engineering dealt them a massive and irreparable blow. This was true with most all equipment Germany designed and manufactured for the war. This was definitely one time where the quality over quantity mantra hurt them.

Fat Bhoy Tim · 02-06-07, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by flintlock

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Originally Posted by Fat Bhoy Tim

Superior German (over) engineering is one of the major things that lost them the war mind you.

High quality engineering is a German trait in general. Though I agree, insofar as the war effort was concerened, their penchant for excellency in engineering dealt them a massive and irreparable blow. This was true with most all equipment Germany designed and manufactured for the war. This was definitely one time where the quality over quantity mantra hurt them.

Indeed it is. And it's usually often not required, still the ridiculously expensive maintenance makes BMW half their profits - so there's method to the madness.

Onkel Neal · 02-06-07, 12:48 PM

I can't argue with that, the Germans have always been excellent engineers.

flintlock · 02-06-07, 12:49 PM

For "The Ultimate Driving Experience," I don't mind paying a little extra. Sure, I've had to pay a premium on the odd part, but my experience overall has been great. Their automobiles are a joy to own (and even more fun to drive) and they enjoy a healthy resale value.

dean_acheson · 02-06-07, 12:52 PM

I am not sure that VIIC and GATO is fair, maybe VIIC and a Balao is closer to being an even comparison, both include wartime improvements.

flintlock · 02-06-07, 01:00 PM

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I am not sure that VIIC and GATO is fair, maybe VIIC and a Balao

How about the GATO vs XXI?

/tongue planted firmly in cheek

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Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys, that's all info I didn't know, and the comparison has helped me see both boats differently. Weren't the VIICs pretty much built just for war and nothing else? What I mean is, there were very little comforts on the VIICs, they were war vessels, period, and not meant to serve in the fleet a really long time. Isn't that right? __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

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02-05-07, 06:59 PM	#3
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	lol, I believe we established it was linoleum.

02-06-07, 12:49 PM	#13
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For "The Ultimate Driving Experience," I don't mind paying a little extra. Sure, I've had to pay a premium on the odd part, but my experience overall has been great. Their automobiles are a joy to own (and even more fun to drive) and they enjoy a healthy resale value.

02-06-07, 12:52 PM	#14
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	I am not sure that VIIC and GATO is fair, maybe VIIC and a Balao is closer to being an even comparison, both include wartime improvements.