The Pentagon attack on 9/11

[GSpector]

To Gizzmoe: I vote yes. Same drivel from both.

To nelson1985: I am not taking your "FREE SPEECH" away. I just think you can just spout it elsewhere. I verified your statements with just science & facts and found you to be wrong on many cases.

If you were interested in the truth or even interested in education, you would STOP trying to cram your misinformed theories down our throats and take the time to learn.

Debates are fine because information goes both ways. You seem to shut out everyone here unless they agree with you. That's where you really started to tick me off.

Why don't you take time and read the posts from others and check out the sites offered.


I think that if others read your other posts, they will all find that you have not contributed in 1 way to this site in regard to the theme of this site.

The facts stand for themselves.

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by GSpector

I think that if others read your other posts, they will all find that you have not contributed in 1 way to this site in regard to the theme of this site.

It doesn´t matter where people post on Subsim, as long as they post they contribute to the site.

By the way, we´d mentioned that several times already, if people have nothing useful to add to a discussion they should stay out of it. Generally speaking, on Subsim people can voice their opinion about pretty much anything they want. If you don´t agree with someones opinion either refute that opinion in an acceptable way or say nothing at all.

[HunterICX]

look whatever happend on 9/11 cant be proved, it happend
but the whole thing smells a bit fishy in some points. I dont believe it a consparicy but there are some things that bugs me

many warnings where given
Defensive aircrafts on that morning send far away on a training mission
explosive detecting dogs removed out of builidng 7 weeks before
Building number 7 colapses as an controlled demolision.

But the twin towers werent a set up

''the fireman who clarifies to hear a BOOM BOOM BOOM''
its pretty obvious when the construction is collapsing because of the impact and things inside the building blow up because of the fire.
''but the windows where broked on the 1st floor''
pretty obvious...think of the vibration of the impact when a plane is going 900 Km/h inside the building.

The pentagon:
this scenes seems to be a lot confusing to me, to me its all blurr...
some Pro-Consparicy say that a plane could not make that turn in the boeing. (they say it was a cruise missiles)
well....A hyper modern flightsim that they officialy use for pilots did tests...and they hit the pentagon many times with succes.
but to me its blurry...

9/11 was so horrible that it all seems so unreal...but well...1 thing.. you cannot fake the total picture...some things where fishy...but yet again...try to proof it

[GSpector]

Quote by Gizzmoe:
"It doesn´t matter where people post on Subsim, as long as they post they contribute to the site."

I never said they did not contribute. I stated they did not contribute to the theme of this site.

I saw no reference to any Simulation, Sub or real or simulated Military action in any of there post. Nothing they posted has added any amount of enjoyment to any PC Software I have.

I have enjoyed all the commonalities between many of the members here and with mention of the many activities that take place away from the site. All that also adds to the positive feeling about this site and makes it a welcome place to come back to.

All would have been fine if it just ended with their initial post and just let others respond so maybe they could learn; but no, they both had to keep pushing with what they believe on us without real facts to back it up and with closed eyes.

So, if you wish to ban me because I would like to keep this site a fun and educational site, that's fine because then I won't have to read any more of their posts.

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by GSpector

I never said they did not contribute. I stated they did not contribute to the theme of this site.

I saw no reference to any Simulation, Sub or real or simulated Military action in any of there post. Nothing they posted has added any amount of enjoyment to any PC Software I have.

Thousands of people visit this site each day and they don´t all share the same interests. We have a helo sims forum, one about tank sims, one about pirate games and so on. And of course General Topics, where people can discuss anything that would be off-topic in the other forums. Subsim is a very diverse site. There are many different topics people wanna talk about, and people have different personalities, believe systems, religions, interests in games and so on...

All would have been fine if it just ended with their initial post and just let others respond so maybe they could learn; but no, they both had to keep pushing with what they believe on us without real facts to back it up and with closed eyes.

Like I said, simply ignore those you disgree with, or refute their opinions. No-one forces you to read every single post of them.

[STEED]

9/11 conspiracy's here we go again.

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by STEED

9/11 conspiracy's here we go again.

Well...I'll gues we arent going to find out what Exactly happend...
but yet again...its not a conspiracy althought some thing seems to be suspicous.

[joea]

All right mister elite_hunter, you never answered the question, what happened to Flight 77 and its passengers if it didn't hit the Pentagon? I am at work but I can go home and find the passenger list for you, with real people inlcuding a Chinese couple. (Oh noes China was in on the plot!)