1.04 reluctance?

[LoBlo]

Sounds like people are just spoiled to the imaginary Mk48 performance that used to be there. All the sources say maximum range is 27nm at *less than* top speed. But the old version of the torpedo had it as 27nm at top speed. The currently modeled Mk48 is slated to be a more accurate simulation.

Those folks should get over it.

[Ramius]

Cant say ive read about this yet, but i get the impression that people think a torpedo will go its max range at its max speed all the time ???

If thats the case then = :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[LoBlo]

Originally Posted by Ramius

Cant say ive read about this yet, but i get the impression that people think a torpedo will go its max range at its max speed all the time ???

If thats the case then = :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Yeah, I think that instead of having the T-Boat Spearfish with 27nm @ 45knots and 12nm @ 70knots... instead we should have it 27nm @ 70knots!

[Molon Labe]

Just to set the record straight as per my position, I've mentioned in another thread that the change in how torpedo ranges are calculated in 1.04 does cut in favor of the Akula, but that the change is not as big a deal as it's being made out to be.

The precise change, in game terms, is that the no-escape range (for a 35-knot target--like the Akula II) of the ADCAP has gone from 9.82 miles to about 7.74 miles. (Yes, I actually sat down and did the math!) That's not a huge deal. But, I suspect that many 1.03 players didn't realize that the no-escape range was only 9.82nm, so they did not take advantage of that fact. With the change in 1.04, more people are aware of this, and more people are taking advantage of it.

As others have mentioned, this change is realistic.
If people have a problem with the SUBROC weapons being too powerful, the solution is to use LW/Ami, which gives the SUBROC torpedoes less-capable seekers than the ADCAP or "65cm torpedo" in the stock game, decreases overall detection range (making it easier to get within no-escape range), increases the detection range advantage that US subs have over the Russian subs, and provides a substantial launch transient noise (giving US subs a chance to clear datum before the weapon splashes down). Disabling auto-TMA will also reduce the effectiveness of SUBROCs.

1.04 is an unqualified improvement from 1.03.

[LuftWolf]

Don't forget, LWAMI also introduces a bearing and range error for all SUBROCs, so they won't always fall precisely where you think they will (but pretty close)!

(shameless plug)

Cheers,
David

[Molon Labe]

Originally Posted by LuftWolf

Don't forget, LWAMI also introduces a bearing and range error for all SUBROCs, so they won't always fall precisely where you think they will (but pretty close)!

(shameless plug)

Cheers,
David

I knew I missed something....

[Madman_GNSF]

First the Tb-29 is taken away from the Seawolf.

Second 2knots are taken away from the Seawolf's Maximum speed.

Now - the MK48 has reduced range.

I can accept the Mk48 having reduced range but stripping the Seawolf of the TB-29 and 2knots off its speed is not very good.

The Future of the Seawolf?

-The modders weld shut 4 torpedo tubes giving the Seawolf only 4 torpedo tubes?
-Reduce the max speed of the Seawolf to 35knots?

It seems that some people just can't accept that the Seawolf is that much better than all the other subs. My guess is the Akula and Kilo and 688i drivers are trying their hardest to make the Seawolf into something they can kill easier. Instead of maybe improving their tactics they decide its easier to make the Seawolf an easier target.

I thought the whole points of simulations is to simulate real life? if the Seawolf can go 40knots in real life - then it should go 40knots in any simulation. If the Seawolf has a TB-29 towed array sensor in real life - why on earth would you take it away?

Please modders - try to simulate real life and not take away advantages or disadvantages for any boat. Please.

Thanks

LT Madman TF74
GNSF