I found the Luftwaffe!! (GWX)

Vacillator · 01-30-07, 04:07 AM

With an Il2 background I was just wondering, a four-engined plane? Looks like an FW200 Condor perhaps. Did they ever fly in formations of 5 or more planes on missions like this? I thought they were sent out as lone patrol / recce / bombers...

No nit-picking intended, I'm just curious (particularly as I'm using the excellent GWX and want to see such things too!).

aloe1 · 01-30-07, 05:31 AM

no thats a B17 flying fortress thats bad!!! dive

JU_88 · 01-30-07, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aloe1

no thats a B17 flying fortress thats bad!!! dive

nope its a condor, B17s are not in GWX at the moment.

Jimbuna · 01-30-07, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

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Originally Posted by aloe1

no thats a B17 flying fortress thats bad!!! dive

nope its a condor, B17s are not in GWX at the moment.

:rotfl: RTFM:rotfl:

hyperion2206 · 01-30-07, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vacillator

With an Il2 background I was just wondering, a four-engined plane? Looks like an FW200 Condor perhaps. Did they ever fly in formations of 5 or more planes on missions like this? I thought they were sent out as lone patrol / recce / bombers...

No nit-picking intended, I'm just curious (particularly as I'm using the excellent GWX and want to see such things too!).

You're right, these are Condors and yes, normally they were sent out alone. I do however remember one incident were they attacked a convoy in groups. I'll haveto check that because I don't know if my memory plays tricks on me.

Vacillator · 01-30-07, 09:26 AM

Thanks hyperion. Also the setting was 'leaving port just before the invasion of Norway' so that's pretty early in the war when there may have been more FW200s about (there never were many of them)? If only I had my references here...

Jimbuna · 01-30-07, 10:10 AM

Doenitz acting under instruction from Raeder soke to Jodl behind Goerings back and managed to secure air support from Kampfgruppe 40:

"The Fw 200s were delivered to Kampfgruppe 40, which from June 1940 operated from Bordeaux-Merignac. Systematic anti-shipping operations began in August. Flights lead over the Bay of Biscay, around Ireland, and ended in Norway. The sinking of 90,000 tons of shipping was claimed in the first two months, and 363,000 tons by February 1941. Churchill called it the "Scourge of the Atlantic".

Initially only 3 FW Condor 200 aircraft were available

Vacillator · 01-30-07, 10:18 AM

Yes that sounds about right, as per here:

http://uboat.net/technical/fw200.htm

Unfortunately the flights started after the invasion of Norway (which was April). Oh well, what's a few months between friends...

01-30-07, 10:10 AM	#7
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,979 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Doenitz acting under instruction from Raeder soke to Jodl behind Goerings back and managed to secure air support from Kampfgruppe 40: "The Fw 200s were delivered to Kampfgruppe 40, which from June 1940 operated from Bordeaux-Merignac. Systematic anti-shipping operations began in August. Flights lead over the Bay of Biscay, around Ireland, and ended in Norway. The sinking of 90,000 tons of shipping was claimed in the first two months, and 363,000 tons by February 1941. Churchill called it the "Scourge of the Atlantic". Initially only 3 FW Condor 200 aircraft were available __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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01-30-07, 04:07 AM	#1
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	With an Il2 background I was just wondering, a four-engined plane? Looks like an FW200 Condor perhaps. Did they ever fly in formations of 5 or more planes on missions like this? I thought they were sent out as lone patrol / recce / bombers... No nit-picking intended, I'm just curious (particularly as I'm using the excellent GWX and want to see such things too!).

01-30-07, 05:31 AM	#2
aloe1 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: soon to be perth in AUSSIE yippee Posts: 121 Downloads: 356 Uploads: 0	no thats a B17 flying fortress thats bad!!! dive

01-30-07, 09:26 AM	#6
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks hyperion. Also the setting was 'leaving port just before the invasion of Norway' so that's pretty early in the war when there may have been more FW200s about (there never were many of them)? If only I had my references here...

01-30-07, 10:18 AM	#8
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yes that sounds about right, as per here: http://uboat.net/technical/fw200.htm Unfortunately the flights started after the invasion of Norway (which was April). Oh well, what's a few months between friends...