Gwx question: neutrals & lights at night

[melnibonian]

Originally Posted by Albrecht Von Hesse

--nods-- I have, though, run across neutrals that are lit up. But they have been singletons, not small groups of 2 -3. Just was making sure; don't want to be gigged for sinking neutrals.

I think the neutrals that you come accross after 1940-1941 that have their lights on are from places where the war hasn't reach yet. For exmple US ships or Brazilian, Colombian and other South American ones. I don't know I'm just speculating now:hmm:

[Scheisskopf]

in the GWX manual i think it explains that usually neutral ships would light up, so if youre running GWX take a quick glance at the manual

[bigboywooly]

The problem with giving France lit ships was that they are at war then neutral then at war again
So they werent given lights
Same with Italy - who changed sides quite a bit

You should find lights on

Denmark
Netherlands
Usa
Venezuela
Uruguay
Brasil
Norway
Turkey
Lithuania
Latvia

Before they enter the war

Ireland
Spain
Sweden
Portugal

Throughout as neutral

You will come across the odd neutral ship without lights as not all the ships have a lit and dark version

[Lanzfeld]

My problem is that I can see the neutral lights through fog loooooooong before the ship is visible.

[bigboywooly]

Yeah tis the nature of the SH3 lights
They shine through everything
Fog and your crews head :rotfl:

[AG124]

As BBW mentioned, there are some ships which do not have lit versions. The following ships have both lit and dark versions available in GWX (both original names and GWX names are included, as well as designation):

Passenger Liner [PPL/LPL]
Transport (Passenger/Cargo) [NPTR/NPTL]
C2 Cargo (Medium Merchant) [KLS/LLS]
Coastal Merchant (Tramp Steamer) [KSQ/LSQ]
T3 Tanker (Large Tanker) [OTMS/LTMS]
Small Coastal Vessel (Motor Vessel) [NF_boat_1/NF_boat_L]
Tug Boat [NATF/NLTF]

There are also lit versions of the Small Merchant and Small Tanker which have been released by Anvart, but they weren't completed in time for GWX. Also, Hospital Ships and Light Ships should always be lit, but Light Ships may be Allied sometimes.

Any other merchant not in that list will always be darkened, even if it is sailing under a neutral flag. So be sure to check the flag of a darkened merchant first before firing.

[dertien]

Originally Posted by AG124

There are also lit versions of the Small Merchant and Small Tanker which have been released by Anvart, but they weren't completed in time for GWX. Also, Hospital Ships and Light Ships should always be lit, but Light Ships may be Allied sometimes.

Will those be in the GWX update that has been currently delayed, or will this be in the ship upgrade mod by Cmdr Gibs ?

Thnx

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Yeah tis the nature of the SH3 lights
They shine through everything
Fog and your crews head :rotfl:

Sometimes I see them when I'm IN the crew's head!

[Payoff]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sometimes I see them when I'm IN the crew's head!

:rotfl:

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by Anvart

My friend, I shall add from myself.
In SH3 light imitation is two kinds.
The first: with application of the Particles Generator (you see through objects);
The second: Self Illumination material property is used (you do not see through objects).
The Second is used in lit ships.
Lanzfeld asked me about light visibility in a fog (PM) and I have answered to him,
may be he has not understood.
:hmm:

Thanks for that Anvart
They are your ships so you will know

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

The problem with giving France lit ships was that they are at war then neutral then at war again
So they werent given lights
Same with Italy - who changed sides quite a bit

You should find lights on

Denmark
Netherlands
Usa
Venezuela
Uruguay
Brasil
Norway
Turkey
Lithuania
Latvia

Before they enter the war

Ireland
Spain
Sweden
Portugal

Throughout as neutral

You will come across the odd neutral ship without lights as not all the ships have a lit and dark version

Well, this, and a few other replies, help explain things.