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Old 01-22-07, 03:15 PM   #1
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Is this a joke? or can you really do this? its hard to tell since so many people joke/chat on forums.

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I've done it by ordering all men to fore compartments and giving the order to dive to adjust the dive planes to diving position when sitting down there...
is this impossible with NYGM+GW?
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Old 01-22-07, 04:21 PM   #2
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Is this a joke? or can you really do this? its hard to tell since so many people joke/chat on forums.

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I've done it by ordering all men to fore compartments and giving the order to dive to adjust the dive planes to diving position when sitting down there...
is this impossible with NYGM+GW?
I've got no reason to cheat...
don't want to hijack this thread hope Ducimus won't mind few pics

game setup: SH3 1.4 + GWX + some minor mods mostly gui changes, some parts from Flavor to taste V5 etc.
naval academy artillery mission, shallow waters, sub VIIB
17:33 approaching the bottom


all men on the bow


17:35 sitting down



18:35 still here it's getting dark



03:12 CO2 level rises


06:18 still bottoming


13:23 after 20hours the CO2 level near red zone but still here


note the depth in low right corner is always 111m
also note the 'dive' position of hydropalnes on some pic (e.g. the last)

sorry for poor quality pics but I wanted to keep them as small as possible

so now I have to try this with the GWX+NYGM merged physics

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Old 01-22-07, 04:52 PM   #3
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The boat is going to sit on the bottom regardless if you use GWX, "OR" NYGM's model. It may not sit perfectly on the bottom (or it may), that it's not like sitting with the hull in contact to the seafloor is cruicial. What's more, bottoming the boat DOES NOTHING as far as the AI is concerned in terms of evasion.

What id be intrested in is if moving all the crew to the forward compartments stops the positive rise with under both models combined like you suggest it does under GWX's model by itself. The thing is, in GWX, the positive rise is ONLY about 2 meters and it stops rising regardless of what you do with the crew. Im also highly skeptical that moving the crew around effects the trim of a boat in SH3. Theres nothing to suggest that the game's physics is modeled by ubi to that high of a degree.
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The boat is going to sit on the bottom regardless if you use GWX, "OR" NYGM's model. It may not sit perfectly on the bottom (or it may), that it's not like sitting with the hull in contact to the seafloor is cruicial. What's more, bottoming the boat DOES NOTHING as far as the AI is concerned in terms of evasion.

What id be intrested in is if moving all the crew to the forward compartments stops the positive rise with under both models combined like you suggest it does under GWX's model by itself. The thing is, in GWX, the positive rise is ONLY about 2 meters and it stops rising regardless of what you do with the crew. Im also highly skeptical that moving the crew around effects the trim of a boat in SH3. Theres nothing to suggest that the game's physics is modeled by ubi to that high of a degree.
Maybe the it's easy to see on the pics but the sub is sitting right on the bottom not floating 2m above. NA says 0 meters under the keel.
Now I'm gonna test your IXC merged physics although I'm VII typ rider... will be back soon
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