Neutral destroyers in convoy´s? (GWX)

Vikinger · 01-10-07, 03:32 PM

Yeah they came after me and attacked as i was an enemy to them.

It must be some way to fix this so not neutral escorts show up in convoys.
It take away a lot of the realism feeling.

The problem is not in the roster file coz for the french there is no excorts ship in thier roster more than an armed trawler. So it must be on some other file we have to look for the problem.

melnibonian · 01-10-07, 03:34 PM

I'll pass it to the GWX devs. If it can be fixed it will. My view is though that there is something to do with the SH3 game engine. In any case I'm just speculating. I'll let the Devs know and they will see what they can do.

In the mean time keep sinking them (neutrals or not)

Vikinger · 01-10-07, 03:39 PM

Hehe. No one is safe from my trigger happy finger

Thx for passing it on.

azn_132 · 01-10-07, 05:39 PM

Which french flag is it? The Free French or just regular french flag?

swuboo · 01-10-07, 06:40 PM

USS Niblack, USS Reuben James. It's not without historical precedent.

Vichy escorts, though, that's a bit of a puzzler. Any Free French ships would already be flying the Lorraine cross, so if this ship had the plain tricolor, it's definitely Vichy.

I can definitely see a lot of Vichy crews having no love of the Germans, but I can't see them escorting a convoy which, if it's off the Canaries, is probably bound for Britain. It's too soon after Mers-el-Kebir.

My guess is that it's intentional that sympathetic neutrals provide escorts, since that's true to life, but that it was unintentional for France in particular to do so.

Vikinger · 01-10-07, 06:41 PM

Its the regulary french flag.

andy_311 · 01-10-07, 06:55 PM

If they fired first then oblitrate that convoy I would. (but am just curious if you/they fire at you and they are neutral I know that the game modele's your a enemy of that country for 24 hrs does that mean that every where on the world map that coutry is fireing at the other country's ship just curious).

Vikinger · 01-10-07, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andy_311

If they fired first then oblitrate that convoy I would. (but am just curious if you/they fire at you and they are neutral I know that the game modele's your a enemy of that country for 24 hrs does that mean that every where on the world map that coutry is fireing at the other country's ship just curious).

I was at periscope depth and they spotted me and came after me.

Obviously i was a threat to the convoy so they attacked.

The convoy consisted of both english and french escorts.

I had 2 french ship after me. 1 was a swan frigate and the other was a corvett.

I manage after a while sink one of the french escort after they had depth charged me. Then another destroyer, english, jumped into the scene so i decided to disengage and sneak away from that convoy.

But it doesnt matter who attacked first, problem is that it shouldnt be any french escort ship in a large convoy. My guess is also that the convoy was on outbound for america.

swuboo · 01-10-07, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikinger

Its the regulary french flag.

Then that ship definitely shouldn't be there. Not after Mers-el-Kebir.

Again, I like the idea of neutral escorts; those really existed, and really opened fire on U-Boats. Pre-Pearl American escorts in particular.

But Vichy escorts simply don't make any sense, given the political situation.

01-10-07, 03:34 PM	#2
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01-10-07, 03:32 PM	#1
Vikinger Captain Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 514 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 6	Yeah they came after me and attacked as i was an enemy to them. It must be some way to fix this so not neutral escorts show up in convoys. It take away a lot of the realism feeling. The problem is not in the roster file coz for the french there is no excorts ship in thier roster more than an armed trawler. So it must be on some other file we have to look for the problem.

01-10-07, 03:39 PM	#3
Vikinger Captain Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 514 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 6	Hehe. No one is safe from my trigger happy finger Thx for passing it on.

01-10-07, 05:39 PM	#4
azn_132 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 950 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Which french flag is it? The Free French or just regular french flag?

01-10-07, 06:40 PM	#5
swuboo Bosun Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 66 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	USS Niblack, USS Reuben James. It's not without historical precedent. Vichy escorts, though, that's a bit of a puzzler. Any Free French ships would already be flying the Lorraine cross, so if this ship had the plain tricolor, it's definitely Vichy. I can definitely see a lot of Vichy crews having no love of the Germans, but I can't see them escorting a convoy which, if it's off the Canaries, is probably bound for Britain. It's too soon after Mers-el-Kebir. My guess is that it's intentional that sympathetic neutrals provide escorts, since that's true to life, but that it was unintentional for France in particular to do so.

01-10-07, 06:41 PM	#6
Vikinger Captain Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 514 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 6	Its the regulary french flag.

01-10-07, 06:55 PM	#7
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	If they fired first then oblitrate that convoy I would. (but am just curious if you/they fire at you and they are neutral I know that the game modele's your a enemy of that country for 24 hrs does that mean that every where on the world map that coutry is fireing at the other country's ship just curious).