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Old 12-11-06, 06:29 AM   #1
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All of you who lives in the UK, USA, Canada, Australia were not occupied by the nazis for several years. Norway and most of the countries around Germany were. There is no history of occupation in your countries, you don't know what that means.

So I guess you are excused for all these nice words about the Germans during the war. But I hate them for it, and can never forgive them. That will never change.
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I am Greek and we did suffer as a nation from the Germans. We had in percentages (as we used to be only 7 milion then) the same amount of casualties as Germany and the Soviet Union. People were starving and dropping dead in the streets. Whole villages were burnt and destroyed, people executed for almost no reason. Also don't forget that 30-50,000 Greek citizens of jewish faith were liquidated in the concentration camps. Th whole jewish community of Thesaloniki vanished. That community was there for almost 1000 years, and whithin a few months all of them perished. We also had (and still have) a huge merchant fleet that suffered a lot from the U-Boats. Still we do not hate the Germans. We don't forget but we do forgive. After all a long time has passed and the only thing we can do is to learn from the past and try to make sure it will never happen again. I'm not a religious person but I do like to follow the quote 'Mistakes are human, forgiveness is divine'. Don't let me wrong I do not judge you for not forgiving and keeping the grudge (or anything else you like to call it) against the germans. I just state my opinion which is different to yours. I mean no offence to you and your beliefs, and if I said something that you find offencive or even difficult to accept I am deeply sorry. After all we all exchange opinions here and we all learn something from each other. That's the legacy of WWII. We live in a democratic state and we solve our differences through dialog (well most of the times at least)
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Old 12-11-06, 06:49 AM   #2
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melnibonian,

We all got our own opinions, and we respect each others in this thread, otherwise it would turn into WW3. This is still today a very sensitive issue.

But I think you should speak for yourself and not on behalf of the Greek people or the Jews, I'm sure that many of them would not agree with you.
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Old 12-11-06, 06:52 AM   #3
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But I think you should speak for yourself and not on behalf of the Greek people or the Jews, I'm sure that many of them would not agree with you.
I totally agree with you. As I said in all my posts I do speak for myself and I do express my opinion, as I am sure you do as well. I'm sure many will not agree and I hope some will but the important issue here is that we are capable of having a civilised discussion about a difficult issue and exchange opinions while at the same time respecting each other
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Old 12-11-06, 06:56 AM   #4
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I'm amazed how off topic these threads get on these forums.
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Old 12-11-06, 10:15 AM   #5
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I'm amazed how off topic these threads get on these forums.
Yeah, she slipped away but the following discussion is pretty good and a lot of viewpoints are brought to the table. These viewpoints from around the globe. It is interesting to read all and see the sentiments concerning the aftermath of WW2. Thus far it has been pretty civil.
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