The Exorcism of Emily Rose

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Okay i get the picture!

Khihihiihiii

[kiwi_2005]

Well okay you all think the movie sucks. Yet do you's believe. ?

Exorcism has been around since christanity began. Priests have been doing it for centuries, and still are asked to exorcise to this day. Jesus deciples had the power to chase out demons. So why not God fearing Priests?

Hell is fire and suphur, on record every victim that has claimed to been possess and lived through it have said a strange burning smell of suphur was always present.

Can a person be possessed? I believe so. Medical side of it is they are just crazy/sick etc., But these possessed victims all claim they are not well they know theirs something not right. On the other hand A mad person does not think they are mad but normal like everyone else.

[TarJak]

Kiwi, that is a pretty broad statement. having a little experience in the field of psychiatric health I have both read and come into contact with a number of mentally ill people who know there is something wrong but don;t know how to explain it. One of the common explanations particularly in deeply religious patients is that they are possessed.



Until someone comes up with one shred of physical evidence for possession I'm sorry I can't believe.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Until someone comes up with one shred of physical evidence for possession I'm sorry I can't believe.

Linda Blair.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Until someone comes up with one shred of physical evidence for possession I'm sorry I can't believe.

Sounds familiar...Kiwi I thought you would know better.If you are a creature that is running the show or trying to gain control of it from behind the scenes would you show everyone who you are or wait until the final act to spring it....or the other side of the coin...the proof of God's power or exsistence.... An evil and wicked generation seeketh a sign and none shall be given except the sign of Jonah.

P.S. I saw the movie....Cast not thy pearls before the swine.

[kiwi_2005]

Iceman you being a christain i thought you would agree? Did not Jesus chase out demons? and his deciples do the same. Or because this is modern times with scientific theories it must therefore be some brain disorder. Last recorded exorcism was in 2004 in Itali by catholic priests. If it was happening 2000 odd yrs ago why can it not still happen today.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

If it was happening 2000 odd yrs ago why can it not still happen today.

If people branded as witches were being burned alive at the stake 500 odd years ago why can it not still happen today.

[Safe-Keeper]

Well okay you all think the movie sucks. Yet do you's believe. ?

In demons? Nope. In God? Nope. In Jesus? I highly doubt he even existed.

No solid evidence for either but books and purported miracles.

Exorcism has been around since christanity began. Priests have been doing it for centuries, and still are asked to exorcise to this day. Jesus deciples had the power to chase out demons. So why not God fearing Priests?

So because a book says that a person who maybe did not even exist could drive out demons, priests today can, too?

Hell is fire and suphur, on record every victim that has claimed to been possess and lived through it have said a strange burning smell of suphur was always present.

In ancient times many cultures, from the Aztecs to the English to the Japanese, believed in dragons. Most of them described them the same way. Do dragons exist?

They all reported the sulphuric smell, oh wow. So they possess the demonic ability to read and thus understand what they're expected to say they remember from their "possession".

OK, so I saw a UFO yesterday. It was... [looks up UFO_Nutters.sux] ...saucer-shaped and moved erratically. See, my statement matches the millions of other testimonies. I speak truth:p!

Can a person be possessed? I believe so. Medical side of it is they are just crazy/sick etc., But these possessed victims all claim they are not well they know theirs something not right.

Oh, wow. They know something is wrong, so they're possessed. Splendid reasoning.

My best friend's got this really bad lung disease. It's got the symptoms of asthma, only much stronger. The doctors can't figure out what it is, so clearly she's in the claws of the flying spaghetti monster's evil cousin, the wicked rolling baked potato (pardon my rudeness, I'm possessed by Richard Dawkins).

On the other hand A mad person does not think they are mad but normal like everyone else.

That is a very broad, generalizing statement.

What does "mad" mean? Which psychiatric illnesses does it encompass? Every single one from depression and phobias to anorexia and MDD, or just the "crazy" ones like schizophrenia?

You sound like a person who's read that there aren't always visible symptoms of cancer, and then goes on to say that "a person who's caught a virus, bacteria infection, or other kind of physical illness doesn't know he's ill".

And as a side note, this is one of the good reasons why psychiatry shouldn't be neglected in the school curriculum. A more stereotyped and stigmatized phenomenon you'll be hard pressed to find.

Until someone comes up with one shred of physical evidence for possession I'm sorry I can't believe.

Let's say I see the aftermath of a car accident (two crashed cars, ambulance chopper idling on the grass by the road, paramedics helping wounded motorist, and so on). I don't know what came before the accident, and the people at the scene tell me to move along. The newspaper the next day is not helpful, either, it's just "one injured in motor accident, this location, that time".

So - if I am to tell someone about this, what do I say?

1. I saw a traffic accident yesterday. There were these two cars smashed up, and a person injured. What happened? I don't know.
2. Funniest thing happened yesterday. I came down x street by bus and I saw that God had created two car wrecks on the road. He'd spawned this injured man, too...

The process of killing of "demons" who "possess" humans, along with the "curing" of homosexuals, are just two more sings that certain followers of mythology just haven't realized this isn't 1 CE anymore.

Or because this is modern times with scientific theories it must therefore be some brain disorder.

No, it must be some brain disorder because scientific evidence tells us so. Take me. No demons in my head, just chemical imbalances.

Did you know where the word "flu", or "influenza" comes from? It's an old form of "influence". See, the ancient Romans, I think it was, believed that when you came down with the flu, it was because you were possessed by evil spirits or some other form of negative influence. Do you know this to not be true? After all, I can imagine that many methods the Romans used to heal the flu-infected might have worked to them.

Did not the Romans chase out the influence? Or because this is modern times with scientific theories it must therefore be some "flu virus".

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Iceman

If you are a creature that is running the show or trying to gain control of it from behind the scenes would you show everyone who you are or wait until the final act to spring it....or the other side of the coin...the proof of God's power or exsistence.... An evil and wicked generation seeketh a sign and none shall be given except the sign of Jonah.

Does not satan works to fool us, near the end she claimed she saw the mother mary, work of satan - the mother mary is a false prophet - their is nothing important about Mother Mary yet catholics pray to her. The devil fool her into thinking Mother Mary came to her. Now many catholics visit her grave and have it as a shrine. Satans job was completed.