mod 'ownership' and copyright protection

11-09-06, 03:59 PM

Hmmmm . . . the comments here are underwhelming, to say the least.

ASWnut101 · 11-09-06, 04:03 PM

overwhelming, for me..........:p

and, I guess thats just how the system works, but I'm sure someone else *cough*tthefabob,dicumus(<:p DUCImus-sorry),brad(did he leave?)*cough*

Ducimus · 11-09-06, 04:40 PM

Was that a typo, or did you have a freudian slip and call me a nasty name?

As per the topic, im not really sure what to say. It sucks really. Small time gaming schmuchks have been making (or tying to) money off the internet for awhile. I ran into it the first time, a loooonng time ago when i found out some level's i made for DukeNukem3d ended up on a commercially sold compliation CD at the local software store. Nobody asked me if they could use it, and nobody cared. It never occured to me that it was BS moneygrubbin until much later. At the time i was flattered.

One issue i think is that their odds of doing it, and getting away with it are high.

Seriously. I can make a mod, put my username on it, "made by Ducimus". Well, who the hell is Ducimus? What if their 3 or 4 other people on the internet who use the same userhandle? Which one made it? how do you prove that you did? My assumption is that since the username isnt real, neither is the disclaimer that you put into a readme, or at the least its easily negated. Other that i think usermods in general are considered by some a free resource, up for grabs. THey could concievably say, "we're only charging for the manhours it took to make this compliation Plus CD burning" or whatever; at a markup of course. The whole thing is shady. I think until modders start using RL info, the disclaimer is tantamount to a verbal agreement - worth the paper its printed on. And who here would use their RL info on the internet so freely?

Of course i am no lawyer, so i can be entirely wrong.

ASWnut101 · 11-09-06, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Was that a typo, or did you have a freudian slip and call me a nasty name?

oopsy daisies!

Ill go ahead and edit, maby.

Quote:

As per the topic, im not really sure what to say. It sucks really. Small time gaming schmuchks have been making (or tying to) money off the internet for awhile. I ran into it the first time, a loooonng time ago when i found out some level's i made for DukeNukem3d ended up on a commercially sold compliation CD at the local software store. Nobody asked me if they could use it, and nobody cared. It never occured to me that it was BS moneygrubbin until much later. At the time i was flattered.

One issue i think is that their odds of doing it, and getting away with it are high.

Seriously. I can make a mod, put my username on it, "made by Ducimus". Well, who the hell is Ducimus? What if their 3 or 4 other people on the internet who use the same userhandle? Which one made it? how do you prove that you did? My assumption is that since the username isnt real, neither is the disclaimer that you put into a readme, or at the least its easily negated. Other that i think usermods in general are considered by some a free resource, up for grabs. THey could concievably say, "we're only charging for the manhours it took to make this compliation Plus CD burning" or whatever; at a markup of course. The whole thing is shady. I think until modders start using RL info, the disclaimer is tantamount to a verbal agreement - worth the paper its printed on. And who here would use their RL info on the internet so freely?

Of course i am no lawyer, so i can be entirely wrong.

anything cleared up, Albrecht?

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ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	overwhelming, for me..........:p and, I guess thats just how the system works, but I'm sure someone else coughtthefabob,dicumus(<:p DUCImus-sorry),brad(did he leave?)cough __________________ Last edited by ASWnut101; 11-09-06 at 05:53 PM.

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11-09-06, 03:59 PM	#1
Albrecht Von Hesse Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hmmmm . . . the comments here are underwhelming, to say the least.

11-09-06, 04:40 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Was that a typo, or did you have a freudian slip and call me a nasty name? As per the topic, im not really sure what to say. It sucks really. Small time gaming schmuchks have been making (or tying to) money off the internet for awhile. I ran into it the first time, a loooonng time ago when i found out some level's i made for DukeNukem3d ended up on a commercially sold compliation CD at the local software store. Nobody asked me if they could use it, and nobody cared. It never occured to me that it was BS moneygrubbin until much later. At the time i was flattered. One issue i think is that their odds of doing it, and getting away with it are high. Seriously. I can make a mod, put my username on it, "made by Ducimus". Well, who the hell is Ducimus? What if their 3 or 4 other people on the internet who use the same userhandle? Which one made it? how do you prove that you did? My assumption is that since the username isnt real, neither is the disclaimer that you put into a readme, or at the least its easily negated. Other that i think usermods in general are considered by some a free resource, up for grabs. THey could concievably say, "we're only charging for the manhours it took to make this compliation Plus CD burning" or whatever; at a markup of course. The whole thing is shady. I think until modders start using RL info, the disclaimer is tantamount to a verbal agreement - worth the paper its printed on. And who here would use their RL info on the internet so freely? Of course i am no lawyer, so i can be entirely wrong.