Rumsfeld has to go

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

And why is this always found out and responded to by euro's? Maybe as I suggested before you just follow the call of your own leaders who are diverting your attention away from more pressing problems at home. I suggest y'all open your eyes as to whats happening in your own backyard before it's too late. I assure you Rumsfield is the least of anyones worries especially those living in the E.U.

Because wether you like it or not, american foreign policy has worldwide consequences.
Paying attention to problems at home doesn't mean we don't look over the atlantic.
One doesn't exclude the other.

[Rockstar]

Rather than asking what you know of American Foreign Policy what do you know of your countries foreign policy? What the bloody hell is the high and mightest of European royalty doing to steer global issues to a peacful course, please explain to the rest of the world the European Union's Foreign Policy?

As an American I can sum up what ours has been ever since we left that miserable continent of royalty and happy peasants we want you and the rest of the freekin so called free world to LEAVE US ALONE. Please get your policy makers to step right in and fix it clue us all in how it ought to be done

[DAB]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

What the bloody hell is the high and mightest of European royalty doing to steer global issues to a peacful course, please explain to the rest of the world the European Union's Foreign Policy?

I'm sure that if the European Union was a country then it would have a foreign policy. As it isn't... it would be a little odd don't you think.

we want you and the rest of the freekin so called free world to LEAVE US ALONE.

Stop calling yourselves the leaders of the free world, and the rest of the world might oblige.


Seriously though.

European Countries (note the Plural Rockstar) have foreign policies, but I wouldn't expect Rockstar or any non Andorian on this board to understand the intricasies of Andorian Political Affairs, just as many of us here would have difficulties in understanding the Republican policy regarding the bannana trade with African East Coast countries. But we know that such policies exist even if we have not personally seen them.

And now for the general (eg, not Rockstar orientated) rant

To be blunt, the critisism on this board comes down to one single level. Do people have the right to debate issues concerning other countries. Given most of us here take an interest in military affairs, the answer should be simple.

I can't help but feel that the majority of people who say that "Euros" should not debate Donald Rumsfield do so because they feel their debating position is vunerable and baseless, and are worried that this is exposed. It is one of the oldest political tactics in the book. Claim your opponent is unpaitriotic, an outsider, a rebel and appeal to the base Hobbesian fears of your audience. Those people who have the self confidence to believe they can debate the issues clearly and more importantly believe that they are right never seem resort to such tactics.

I would suggest that those whose patriotism, disposition or indeed egos are so fragile don't risk offense by debating on these forums. Its hosted on a server in Texas, a constituent state in a country which believes in open debate and the open flow of ideas - not in censorship based on nationality.