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Old 10-14-06, 03:01 AM   #1
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Old 10-14-06, 03:40 AM   #2
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You don't know my game settings, trust me, it was too late .
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Old 10-14-06, 03:43 AM   #3
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You don't know my game settings, trust me, it was too late .
Wanna explain? Does your "Long range Mod" make it so hard?

Well there is always time for "AAALLLLLLLLAAAAARRRRRMMMMMMM!!!!!"
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Old 10-14-06, 09:42 AM   #4
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You don't know my game settings, trust me, it was too late .
Wanna explain? Does your "Long range Mod" make it so hard?

Well there is always time for "AAALLLLLLLLAAAAARRRRRMMMMMMM!!!!!"

The thing is, in my game, the uboat is pretty fragile. Most of the hitpoints/armor for the sub compartments have been lowered. The result is in a normal depth charge attack, ill get lots of flooding and machinery damage from near hits. The AI's sensors arent as blind, which means their more likely to aquire a contact, so Depth charges s in that regard were reduced to a 12 meter max radius. The overall result is i get a much more compelling depth charge experience. 8 or 9 times out of 10, i wont surivve the U505 mission. Now the heckler in all of this is air dropped bombs. They have a radius of 40 meters. Which means normaly when i crash dive from aircraft, if i dont get below 40 meters, ill get some flooding in the boat because of the shockwave of the bomb. The closer you are to the explosion point, the more damage it does.

Those bombs goign of RIGHT NEXT to my boat at probably 4 or 5 meters away was just devastating.
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Old 10-14-06, 03:48 AM   #5
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No disrespect to you or anybody else who uses this technique to conserve fuel, it's a well known trick used by almost all the "old salts" of this game, but I find it terrible annoying that SHIII completely ignores the laws of thermodynamics on this one... it is one of the game's weakest points and shows that Ubisoft didn't really do as much research for the game as they should have.

As for your story: I feel for you. Going all that way just to be blindsided by a bird... that's gotta be hard to take
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Old 10-14-06, 09:47 AM   #6
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At least it was his first patrol,
I play DID and just lost a very experienced and highly decorated crew just due to a lucky depth chagre during a convoy attack. It flooded the stern quarters too badly to be reparied and I plummeted to crush depth. This crew also sank the Illustrious in Scapa Flow and I was very disappointed to lose that crew. But if I had reloaded a saved game I would have felt too guilty and the rest of the career would have had a taint on it
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Old 10-14-06, 12:06 PM   #7
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some times murphy is in the destroyers .

i was in the american coast after sink two merchants when america enters in the war (8-11-1941). but a depth charge attack in shallow waters destroy mi bow tubes with 20 torpedos left in my IX-B boat . the two torpedos expended are from the stern tubes.

i´m returning to base. the moral and fuel is too low.
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No disrespect to you or anybody else who uses this technique to conserve fuel, it's a well known trick used by almost all the "old salts" of this game, but I find it terrible annoying that SHIII completely ignores the laws of thermodynamics on this one... it is one of the game's weakest points and shows that Ubisoft didn't really do as much research for the game as they should have.

As for your story: I feel for you. Going all that way just to be blindsided by a bird... that's gotta be hard to take
Thank you for saying "almost". I too find this method to be distasteful, to say the least.
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No disrespect to you or anybody else who uses this technique to conserve fuel, it's a well known trick used by almost all the "old salts" of this game, but I find it terrible annoying that SHIII completely ignores the laws of thermodynamics on this one... it is one of the game's weakest points and shows that Ubisoft didn't really do as much research for the game as they should have.

As for your story: I feel for you. Going all that way just to be blindsided by a bird... that's gotta be hard to take
Thank you for saying "almost". I too find this method to be distasteful, to say the least.
I dont understand why its such a crime to run submerged to save fuel.

Phsyics wise theres ALOT that could be done and isn't. Ultimatly my take is that its a game. This isnt real life. I also know that some people will not be happy with this or any sub sim unless they could somehow smell the diesal room pale eminating from their monitor and feel condensation dripping down on their foreheads.
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I dont understand why its such a crime to run submerged to save fuel.

Phsyics wise theres ALOT that could be done and isn't. Ultimatly my take is that its a game. This isnt real life. I also know that some people will not be happy with this or any sub sim unless they could somehow smell the diesal room pale eminating from their monitor and feel condensation dripping down on their foreheads.
It's not a crime at all. It's just one of those niggly little things that takes away from the immersion for some of us. Right up there with shooting down 25 Sunderlands before they finally get you.

The game lets you get away with a lot of cr...stuff that I find just plain wrong. If you don't, that's cool, but I still get to complain about it.
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Old 10-14-06, 05:51 PM   #11
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I think were lines cross is when it feels like its somehow insinuated that a player is being chastized because he did something you dont agree with.

Theres alot wrong with this game, or any other. I dont think any sim game will ever get it perfect. Theres alot you can do that you couldnt get away with in real life. Personnaly i do lots of things that i know i couldnt do, simply beacuse the game allows me to. For example, bringing a boat OUT of the med, the current simply wont allow it in RL.

Point being Im not going to limit how i play a game as its presetnted to me, even though i know certain aspects are not correct. I may choose to change aspects of the game to be more "realistic", but theres only so much you can do.

I say again, in the end, its a game. yeah sure its a sim, but where do you find sim's on the store shevles? thats right, in the computer game section. It's why one shouln't take every iota of detail about SH3 seriously.
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Old 10-15-06, 02:19 PM   #13
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I think were lines cross is when it feels like its somehow insinuated that a player is being chastized because he did something you dont agree with.

Theres alot wrong with this game, or any other. I dont think any sim game will ever get it perfect. Theres alot you can do that you couldnt get away with in real life. Personnaly i do lots of things that i know i couldnt do, simply beacuse the game allows me to. For example, bringing a boat OUT of the med, the current simply wont allow it in RL.

Point being Im not going to limit how i play a game as its presetnted to me, even though i know certain aspects are not correct. I may choose to change aspects of the game to be more "realistic", but theres only so much you can do.

I say again, in the end, its a game. yeah sure its a sim, but where do you find sim's on the store shevles? thats right, in the computer game section. It's why one shouln't take every iota of detail about SH3 seriously.
All excellent points. Part of my negativity comes from reading the UBI boards; you know, the ones where people brag about their million-ton careers, when of course they're only playing at 25%? When people advise others to use techniques that are game-specific and the opposite of the way it really works, it get's my back up a bit, and I say something. Of course the bottom line is that it's only my opinion, and it is only a game, but when it bothers me I feel compelled to say something about it.

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind the smell of diesel fumes.:p
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