Tips for evading corvettes/DDs - Page 2

HunterICX · 10-05-06, 06:13 PM

''How to evade Escorts/DDs''

Tip 1: Not On this way!!!!!

NIGHTFIGHTER · 10-05-06, 07:31 PM

I went through a period when i was getting blown out of the water by one of these gits every mission, then i decided to try a new tactic. The great playing dead trick really works. wait for that dreaded pinging then go silent and switch off engines and float just at the very limit of the perascope depth, then use the hydrophone and watch the enemy ship, then when he comes to your 0 degrees or 180 raise the scope and let him have it !!!! ive sunk 4 hunters this way and it's a wonderful feeling REVENGE

Steeltrap · 10-05-06, 09:11 PM

Depends on your realism. The simple fact is that subs didn't fight it out on the surface with escorts. A single 4" or 5" shell would render you unable to dive, if not destroy you outright. The fact that you can fight it out with escorts in the stock game is absurd, which is why the 'supermods' make this impossible.

Torp attacks against an escort actively hunting you were a very risky (and generally a losing) proposition. There were exceptions, but they were usually US subs firing a spread of 2-3 torps. Doctrinie was to get the hell out of there, as the escort has all the advantages (faster, better armed) in a straight fight. Some U-boats killed escorts, but these were either ambushes or using the acoustic torp (which was pretty unreliable).

Simple fact is you're going to have to expect to devote hours (in some instances) to escaping. Your best bet is not to be detected, but that's much harder once radar makes surface attacks impossible.

You may not like that, but its a reflection of the reality, which is what a sim should be!

SteamWake · 10-05-06, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

''How to evade Escorts/DDs''

Tip 1: Not On this way!!!!!

I take it the stern tubes werent ready ?

LOL great shot !

TarJak · 10-06-06, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mack the Knife

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

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Say, I only just thought of this, but can you monitor water termperature in these boats? For finding a thermal layer to hide under?

While there is some debate as to wether or not they had the ability to do this in that era. It is not modeled within the game.

Does depth degrade sonar performance at all?

Not to my knowledge. i've been as deep as 240m and still have the buggers pinging away. Luckily at least in the arly war DC's don't reach that far down.

Patience, depth and silence are your friends when the escorts come knocking. I normally crash dive to around 100m then drift on silent down to about 160m. Frequent course changes are usually called for particularly when the DC's are falling.

In shallow water you may have to be a bit more active in running at flank to turn and evade your pursuers, but on the whole the same principles apply, stay as deep as you can get and run silent and don't try to fight it out unless you have a good shot a sinking the opposition. If I am taking a shot I normally do it only if there is only one or two pursuers and only when the target gets within 600m anything further away gives them too much time to see your eels and turn to avoid them

d@rk51d3 · 10-06-06, 12:09 AM

Encountered a large convoy last night with 4 large tankers, about 6 medium tankers, and large and medium merchants. Took on a couple of escorts on the surface too and was surprised to see them actually run away after I put a few hits in.

Next I ran with decks awash, and the remainders ignored me.

Yahoshua · 10-06-06, 12:25 AM

U sure they weren't going after another U-boat?

d@rk51d3 · 10-06-06, 02:24 AM

If that was at all possible, it would be sweet.

10-05-06, 06:13 PM	#16
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Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	U sure they weren't going after another U-boat? __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

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10-05-06, 07:31 PM	#17
NIGHTFIGHTER Mate Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NORFOLK Posts: 55 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I went through a period when i was getting blown out of the water by one of these gits every mission, then i decided to try a new tactic. The great playing dead trick really works. wait for that dreaded pinging then go silent and switch off engines and float just at the very limit of the perascope depth, then use the hydrophone and watch the enemy ship, then when he comes to your 0 degrees or 180 raise the scope and let him have it !!!! ive sunk 4 hunters this way and it's a wonderful feeling REVENGE

10-05-06, 09:11 PM	#18
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Depends on your realism. The simple fact is that subs didn't fight it out on the surface with escorts. A single 4" or 5" shell would render you unable to dive, if not destroy you outright. The fact that you can fight it out with escorts in the stock game is absurd, which is why the 'supermods' make this impossible. Torp attacks against an escort actively hunting you were a very risky (and generally a losing) proposition. There were exceptions, but they were usually US subs firing a spread of 2-3 torps. Doctrinie was to get the hell out of there, as the escort has all the advantages (faster, better armed) in a straight fight. Some U-boats killed escorts, but these were either ambushes or using the acoustic torp (which was pretty unreliable). Simple fact is you're going to have to expect to devote hours (in some instances) to escaping. Your best bet is not to be detected, but that's much harder once radar makes surface attacks impossible. You may not like that, but its a reflection of the reality, which is what a sim should be!

10-06-06, 12:09 AM	#21
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,953 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Encountered a large convoy last night with 4 large tankers, about 6 medium tankers, and large and medium merchants. Took on a couple of escorts on the surface too and was surprised to see them actually run away after I put a few hits in. Next I ran with decks awash, and the remainders ignored me.

10-06-06, 02:24 AM	#23
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,953 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	If that was at all possible, it would be sweet.