Uhhh.... Another WWII Sim?

[JordanC]

I suppose we just have different intrests. When you say DW has lots of new things like the units, but the game itself is pretty much a spit image of Sub Command. If it was the WWII sim community that had this happen to them, I can just imagine how much they would be complaining. Just how far does Ubi want to take Silent Hunter?
I can't wait untill I see the post "Silent Hunter 5 Announced!!!".

[CCIP]

Another point I'd like to make is that while there have been great efforts in WWII sub sims done so far, we're well away from even having all the gameplay features we might like! There's a lot that still could be done in the gameplay-relevant graphics department (drifting rain squalls while intercepting a convoy, anyone?), AI department (don't get me started on this one...), let alone the campaign department (a true dynamic campaign with a strategic AI, anyone?)

I think with all the new technology we get, we deserve the WWII sub sim genre to be updated every couple of years. And noone has done it better than the SH series.

I sincerely wish that SH remain a WWII series. How about for modern, someone ressurects Fast Attack instead?

About the Campaign, take Red Storm Rising, The Hunt for Red October and Fictional USvsRussia...:hmm:
Controlable platforms:
USA:
1. Seawolf
2. 688i
3. Ohio
4. Virginia
Russia:
1. Akula
2. Victor 3
3. Typhoon
4. Alfa
Why it has to be historical realistic??? Make a good story which could be simulated in the real-world events...
As for computers, well, imagine you got 10 sonar contacts... Would take them a lot of time to classify them all. Also TMA to plot a targeting solution. Not very easy piece of cake... And finally, Silent Hunter amy remain a WW2 sub simulator, but why not make another modern naval warfare simulation under some other title???
Just a thought, but hey: imagine launching a tomahawk and looking through a periscope... AH yes, conematics! I want lot's of it...
Kinda early wishlist, but won't hurt, I guess...

[JordanC]

Exactly! Well it may be a little hard to come up with a story, it could be done!

But, no game will have ALL of the features players want. I just think Ubi needs to implement something big if they want the SH series to keep a steady pace. WWII naval warfare is very interesting, don't get me wrong, I still am WAY more interested in WWII then I am in modern warfare, but I suppose it's just getting old. Cruising at periscope depth for an hour chasing a convoy at 5 knts was fun, but I just want something different.

If we could have everything we want, we would't be able to run it.
It would take at least SLI mode for nVidia, Pentium 4 with 6GHz at least, 8GB's of RAM, 3 DVD's for instalation....
Someone please correct me...
@JordanC: Agree 100%

[Qairyl]

I wouldn't be against the idea of a modern-era sub sim, but the concept of "fire and forget" in a field such as this seems a bit.....out of place. That's something I'd expect to see in the skies, somewhere like the Ace Combat series (not that it's a bad thing; I've always been a huge AC fan), not in the seas. Maybe somewhere like Warship Gunner 2, where the fun isn't so much in the realism as it is in the fast-paced action. Besides, how much more satisfaction do you get when that meticulously-measured shot tears a DD in two?

-Qairyl

[Red Devil]

I love sub sims and WW2 has been a veritable treasure chest for them. I used to use 688(i) attack sub which I found excellent, in its day, but gimme good old US subs in the Pacific anyday. I am really looking forward to playing Sub IV .......

[SgtWalt65]

Originally Posted by JordanC

Exactly! Well it may be a little hard to come up with a story, it could be done!

But, no game will have ALL of the features players want. I just think Ubi needs to implement something big if they want the SH series to keep a steady pace. WWII naval warfare is very interesting, don't get me wrong, I still am WAY more interested in WWII then I am in modern warfare, but I suppose it's just getting old. Cruising at periscope depth for an hour chasing a convoy at 5 knts was fun, but I just want something different.

Well I think if you read all the post about Modern Sub Sim versus WW2 Sub Sim, the WW2 wins. Ubisoft has a winner here with WW2 and I do not see the changing anytime soon and I hope they don't. Like what was said by others in here, the modern sub sim is just too boring and push button. The WW2 is much more challenging and fun. Not to mention, the WW2 sub systems are declassified and most of the modern subs systems are still classified. So very little is known about how they operate and that is a key killer point for making a realistic sub sim.
If you want a modern sub sim go and talk with the makers of Dangerous Waters.

Originally Posted by SgtWalt65

Well I think if you read all the post about Modern Sub Sim versus WW2 Sub Sim, the WW2 wins. Ubisoft has a winner here with WW2 and I do not see the changing anytime soon and I hope they don't. Like what was said by others in here, the modern sub sim is just too boring and push button. The WW2 is much more challenging and fun. Not to mention, the WW2 sub systems are declassified and most of the modern subs systems are still classified. So very little is known about how they operate and that is a key killer point for making a realistic sub sim.
If you want a modern sub sim go and talk with the makers of Dangerous Waters.

But Dnagerous Waters is too poor with graphics, not to mention 2D panels....
They could go to navsource.org, see some samples a make, say:
1. US SSN Seawolf
2. US SSN LA 688i
3. USS SSBN OHIO
4. RU SSN Akula
5. RU SSN Alfa
6. RU SSBN Typhoon
Make fictional story such as Red Storm Rising or The Hunt for Red october.
Also add nuke missiles, and all hell's gonna break loose!!!!
As for enemy detection, you have a complicated sonar system for detecting & classifying contacts.... And yes! Damage reports. I want water leak [if possible].
And stay silent.
Would be nice if diesels team up with nukes....
Imagine nuke vs. wwii diesel sub or even u-boat. Maybe XXI would stand a chance...
Sonar: Conn, Sonar: I have a distant contact, submerged. Probably u-boat, sir!
Skipp: Sonar, Conn: Don't bulls**t me, sonar, or no meal for 2 days!
Sonar: Sonar, aye! [To himself: Jackass!].
Skipp: I heard you, sonar!
Sonar: Sorry, sir, just thinking out loud. And BTW, torpedo in the water, straight running, closing fast!
Skipp: And what's it gonna do, kill us? Gimme a break...
Sonar: Aye, sir. Cap'n, a favor?
Skipp: Speak.
Sonar: Tell the people I owe the money to f**k off!
Skipp: Dismissed!