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Old 12-20-24, 12:26 AM   #1
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How did Turkey ever become NATO members??
We bought them to threaten the USSR southern flank

"The Truman Doctrine and Marshall Plan included significant financial and military aid to Turkey, further strengthening ties with the West."
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Old 12-20-24, 04:25 AM   #2
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We bought them to threaten the USSR southern flank

"The Truman Doctrine and Marshall Plan included significant financial and military aid to Turkey, further strengthening ties with the West."

Thats something that i always find hypocritical. When Turkey has military power to get a edge towards the Soviet Union (what benefits NATO)
Everyone agrees what Turkey is doing.

But when Turkey suddenly starts expanding there influence in what Turkey sees as a benefit for themselves (they also have right to do it)
The world starts to complain haha.
i'm not Turkish But people need to understand that the world doesn't only apply to the NATO. Other countries also have the right to get there interests.
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Old 12-20-24, 12:31 PM   #3
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Turkey foreign policy has not changed much since WW1, it always waits to pick the winner that serves their interest the best in WW1 they picked the wrong side in WW2 they decided to join the allies only after Rommel lost in Africa had Rommel won the battle of El-Alamein Turkey would have joined the Axis. It will always be oscillating between the power blocs.
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Old 03-08-25, 02:51 AM   #4
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A group of bipartisan House lawmakers are introducing legislation to redesignate Turkey as a Near Eastern country at the State Department, rather than a European country, as Ankara has moved away from the U.S. and NATO allies.

"An honest evaluation of the U.S .foreign policy bureaucracy reveals that we have unwittingly granted Turkey a "lobby" within multiple State Department bureaus, the size of which is wholly undeserved by a country that has, at best, become "neither friend nor foe,"

The group of lawmakers, led by Reps. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., and Gus Bilirakis, R-Fla., introduced the Turkey Diplomatic Realignment Act, which looks to formally move Turkey’s designation at the U.S. State Department from the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs to the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, reflecting Ankara’s deepening ties with Russia, China, Iran, and Hamas, which are fundamentally at odds with Western security interests.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/bipart...ies-to-us-foes
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cool Now were really "talkin turkey"!

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Thats something that i always find hypocritical. When Turkey has military power to get a edge towards the Soviet Union (what benefits NATO)
Everyone agrees what Turkey is doing.

But when Turkey suddenly starts expanding there influence in what Turkey sees as a benefit for themselves (they also have right to do it)
The world starts to complain haha.
i'm not Turkish But people need to understand that the world doesn't only apply to the NATO. Other countries also have the right to get their interests.
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Turkey foreign policy has not changed much since WW1, it always waits to pick the winner that serves their interest the best in WW1 they picked the wrong side in WW2 they decided to join the allies only after Rommel lost in Africa had Rommel won the battle of El-Alamein Turkey would have joined the Axis. It will always be oscillating between the power blocs.
Turkey holds a key geo-political position on the south flank of the former Stalinist buffer-state empire that wouldbe Czar, Vladimir the Grate, is trying to restore. It controls the Bosphorus Strait and prevents Russian warships from exiting the the Black Sea, which, in conjunction with the recent collapse of ally Assad's Syria, is a serious strategic chokehold on Putin's WWIII seafaring aspirations in the Mediterranean/African theatre and beyond...The US should restore the nuclear weapons it removed from Turkey to resolve the 1960's Cuban missile crisis under JFK, giving our NATO ally back its serious deterrent clout.
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Thats something that i always find hypocritical. When Turkey has military power to get a edge towards the Soviet Union (what benefits NATO)
Everyone agrees what Turkey is doing.

But when Turkey suddenly starts expanding there influence in what Turkey sees as a benefit for themselves (they also have right to do it)
The world starts to complain haha.
i'm not Turkish But people need to understand that the world doesn't only apply to the NATO. Other countries also have the right to get there interests.
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