US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Gorpet]

Donald trump won this election because,
The progressive Democrats went so far with their agendas they went right over the cliff. And they forgot their middle class voter base.Yes they completely forgot about how their policies would affect their voters.They overlooked their own middle class,the same people who get up and go to work every day and have all the bills to pay,for their families in this country any working person or head of family there is responsibility, regardless of what political party has won the vote.The middle class gets up and goes to work.And that is across the board and a fact.

And,The citizens of this country are tired of these politicians creating division and conflict against each other. How can i talk to you,if i have to worry about offending you, that in itself works for Who? How can a society of people exist that can't even talk to one another ? I am a Caucasoid, does that mean we can't talk ?
You just gotta love the new AI ****,If it doesn't like what you have to say, it will not show up.The future is gonna be like 1984

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Donald trump won this election because,
The progressive Democrats went so far with their agendas they went right over the cliff. And they forgot their middle class voter base.Yes they completely forgot about how their policies would affect their voters.They overlooked their own middle class,the same people who get up and go to work every day and have all the bills to pay,for their families in this country any working person or head of family there is responsibility, regardless of what political party has won the vote.The middle class gets up and goes to work.And that is across the board and a fact.

And,The citizens of this country are tired of these politicians creating division and conflict against each other. How can i talk to you,if i have to worry about offending you, that in itself works for Who? How can a society of people exist that can't even talk to one another ? I am a Caucasoid, does that mean we can't talk ?
You just gotta love the new AI ****,If it doesn't like what you have to say, it will not show up.The future is gonna be like 1984

Very well said. Nice post, Gorpet.

It's amazing. I listened to the post Election " Analysis " from people as clueless as the Democratic Party themselves. These " anal" isists have decried reasons for Mama Kamala's loss and downfall. These " reasons " include racial and gender biases and prejudice. Of course, when all else fails, play the race card. They conveniently left out that most of the Democrats in State Senate races also lost their seats and the majority were white.

Instead, the Democrats blamed everyone instead of themselves and for some of the very reasons you just said. Letting Criminals who are undocumented into this Country without any kind of a vetting process is Insanity. These people don't share the values we hold sacred that built our great Country in the first place. My family didn't fight in WW 1 and 2 and other wars to preserve Democracy to turn their Country over to fools such as these. I know our members here also have had family members in the Military Services, Fathers, Sons, Brothers, Mothers and Sisters that have also sacrificed much.

Mama Kamala offering Prison Inmates sex change operations on the Taxpayers dime is more Insanity. Mama Kamala has had four years to address the Economy. Apparently no one believed she could fix what she and Biden helped create. Is this really the Democratic party's vision for a better America ? Is this what our Military Service people sacrificed their lives and well being for ?

The American people spoke yesterday in a resounding voice and in unison that they want, expect and deserve the change that they have worked and sacrificed so much for. Donald Trump is a Moron but at least we can agree that his visions for our Country are much closer and consistent with the moral fibers that made the U.S the country it is. In the end, we all want the same thing. A better America for our family, friends and citizens. We can't have that following the agenda pursued by the Democratic Party that is just clueless.

* I never speak on Political matters but I'm very proud that our Citizens spoke in one voice in this election. *

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Donald trump won this election because,
The progressive Democrats went so far with their agendas they went right over the cliff. And they forgot their middle class voter base.Yes they completely forgot about how their policies would affect their voters.They overlooked their own middle class,the same people who get up and go to work every day and have all the bills to pay,for their families in this country any working person or head of family there is responsibility, regardless of what political party has won the vote.The middle class gets up and goes to work.And that is across the board and a fact....

The funny thing is all you said is exactly how I feel about MAGA republicans and especially Trump. Hopefully the bonehead won't tank the economy with his brilliance as a failed business owner.

[Ostfriese]

America got what it wanted. Now America is going to get what it deserves.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

America got what it wanted. Now America is going to get what it deserves.

America also did not get what they did not deserve. A President Harris. Her performance as a candidate showed that she is woefully unsuited for that job. Democrats need to find better candidates for president. The last three were not the best choices that they could have made.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by u crank

America also did not get what they did not deserve. A President Harris. Her performance as a candidate showed that she is woefully unsuited for that job. Democrats need to find better candidates for president. The last three were not the best choices that they could have made.

I can agree with that, considering that once all votes will have been counted Harris will have received some 10 million votes less than Biden (while Trump will have received more or less the same number of votes than in 2020).

Still, what happened to „Daddy Trump Coin“ and „Maga Trump Coin“ during election night is very likely a symbol what will happen in general. There are people who will profit from a Trump presidency - it just won’t be you. Once you realise that, don’t even start complaining, you got what you wanted.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

Still, what happened to „Daddy Trump Coin“ and „Maga Trump Coin“ during election night is very likely a symbol what will happen in general. There are people who will profit from a Trump presidency - it just won’t be you. Once you realise that, don’t even start complaining, you got what you wanted.

That happens regardless of who is in the White House. It certainly did for Biden. And I didn't get what I want because I didn't vote in that election. I am not an American. Canada eh.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The funny thing is all you said is exactly how I feel about MAGA republicans and especially Trump. Hopefully the bonehead won't tank the economy with his brilliance as a failed business owner.

Not to worry, Elon is not busy and will help. But honestly, I'm not sure Elon will be a part of Trump's plans. The economy was fine under Trump from my recollection. Then the pandemic hit. Then a second virus hit named Biden. Yesterday the Stock market took off. 1500 points. Never seen the likes of it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by u crank

America also did not get what they did not deserve. A President Harris. Her performance as a candidate showed that she is woefully unsuited for that job. Democrats need to find better candidates for president. The last three were not the best choices that they could have made.

Not to mention her performance during the 2020 primary debate should have been a clue she would not do well. I think they believed they could push race, gender and guilting people to vote for her. Obama certainly took that road. It didn't play well.

[Skybird]

I am curious to see what becomes of Kennedy. He is a character who is controversial, to say the least, he expressed in the past several utmost stupid, ridiculous thesis, but in his last verbal contributions on the health pandemic he was absolutely right on mark, spot on, and he is deep in that matter since many years already, so I am willing to assume he knows this matter as well as it seems to be. I maybe would not trust him enough to make him health minister, but I would definitely give him some official rank and the needed responsibility where he really can project massive influence regarding the topic he recently helped to bring to the public's attention. However, since I am not inside the government system, I have no clue how to acchieve that, I admit. Kennedy in, i say - but with guide rails, for safety reasons, so that he does not derail. I want him on the mentioned topic, and not smashing into some other place somewhere else where he just causes smoke and rubbles

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by u crank

That happens regardless of who is in the White House. It certainly did for Biden. And I didn't get what I want because I didn't vote in that election. I am not an American. Canada eh.

My bad. Sorry for that, should have realised from the signature.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

My bad. Sorry for that, should have realised from the signature.

All good.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Not to worry, Elon is not busy and will help. But honestly, I'm not sure Elon will be a part of Trump's plans.

Seriously? That's naive, to say the least. The door for oligarchs has been opened, and the biggest of them all has moved in. Musk is set out to fleece the American taxpayer for as many dollars as he can, (as he always has) and Trump will not be able to contain the monster he has unleashed.

[Onkel Neal]

Democracy needs some better parameters

starting at 12:37

[Skybird]

OMG...

or ?

I use to say that political parties should be prohibited and only individual representatives should be voted for. Becasue prties put themsloeves before the interest of the people and state reason, as we currently see in Germany, in an especially terrible exmaple.

Maybe voters wanting to elect somebody also should be forbidden.

After all, democracy in ancient Greece was a feudal government form. Only citizens - free, rich males with the right and wealth to carry arms - were allowed to participate: servants, women, slaves were banned from any polticial and administrative participation. But even these free rich males carrying arms hat to further qualify for riasing their voice in the assemblies: thery had to prove loyalty to religion and culture, and that they honoured traditions and their father and mother and forefathers. Witnesses had to confirm it.

But every run-of-the-mill person who has no idea about anything...? Some say voting is a democratic automatic right. I say it should be a right that must be earned, and qualification must be demonstrated. Thats the basic idea behind the ancient Greek concept. Of course - even that could be (and was) abused.