Euthanasia

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

I saw a lot of thalidomide teenagers+ in my late teens, they were all around my age and some of the worst ones had some of the lads throwing their lunch up. No one ever suggested that they should be euthanised and if they had done they would have been fired on the spot. It's not the done thing in England old boy and, if other governments want to interfere in the natural process of life then they will have to face their own moral conscience at some point.
Thankfully, it's only briefly been touched upon in the past here, but who can say whether it will become a hot topic in the near future.

Markus' topic is not about state-ordered euthanasia, but about yourself voluntarily wanting to end your own life and whetehr state and/or society hsould be allowed to have a say in this your own personal sovereign decision. And when is this decision maybe not as sovereign anymore as it seems to be from a principal point of view - the dilemma I pointed at?

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Markus' topic is not about state-ordered euthanasia, but about yourself voluntarily wanting to end your own life and whetehr state and/or society hsould be allowed to have a say in this your own personal sovereign decision. And when is this decision maybe not as sovereign anymore as it seems to be from a principal point of view - the dilemma I pointed at?

Here's the kicker in the UK old boy, anything to do with Euthanasia\assisted dying is the domain of Parliamentarians and not citizens, euthanise anyone in the UK and you'll be charged with manslaughter or murder, and the same charges will be brought if that person kills some one while trying to kill himself. This subject is a lot bigger than just committing suicide Skybird, why don't you all look at how far your government has delved it's depths, you might all be surprised.

Parliamentary activity
The Government considers any potential change to the law to be “a matter for Parliament to decide and an issue of conscience for individual parliamentarians rather than one for Government policy”.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer KC is reportedly personally supportive of a change in the law; however, he has said any changes should be the subject of a free vote by MPs to respect the “strong views” on either side. In March 2024, in a telephone call between Sir Keir and Dame Esther Rantzen filmed by ITV News, Sir Keir committed to making parliamentary time for a vote on changing the law in the next parliament should he become Prime Minister.

Several Private Members’ Bills in both the Commons and the Lords have (unsuccessfully) sought to legalise assisted suicide or voluntary euthanasia. Most recently in the Commons, Rob Marris MP tabled the Assisted Dying Bill (No 2) 2015, which did not progress beyond second reading after it was defeated on a free vote by 330 votes to 118. In the Lords, Baroness Meacher (Crossbench) introduced the Assisted Dying Bill [HL] 2021-22 in May 2021. The Bill did not proceed after the end of the 2021-22 session.

In February 2024, the Health and Social Care Select Committee published a report on Assisted Dying/Assisted Suicide (AD/AS). The Committee did not come down for or against AD/AS; instead, it said the purpose of its report was to provide a basis for discussion and debate in future parliaments, rather than to resolve the debate one way or another.

Coming to you in the next twenty years or so.

[mapuc]

Moonlight is right

This is taken from the wiki link I posted in my first post

"The British House of Lords select committee on medical ethics defines euthanasia as "a deliberate intervention undertaken with the express intention of ending a life to relieve intractable suffering" "

Markus

[Rockstar]

“If you die before you die. You will not die when you die”

[Platapus]

"Or should we let each and everyone decide if they wanna end their days whatever reason they may have ?"


Thought experiment: Why not?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Platapus

"Or should we let each and everyone decide if they wanna end their days whatever reason they may have ?"


Thought experiment: Why not?

That being the million dollar question