2023/1014 NFL Football discussion

[bweiss]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Yellow flag!

Some days ago I saw on the German channel RTL a football match from NFL.
There was given some yellow flag to some players.

Markus

Well, just so you know. The yellow flag being thrown during a play (penalty flag), in American football slang is known as; "Laundry on the field."

Not sure about your question without a replay, but sounds like a referee saw something he thought to be a violation of in-play rules; tossed the flag, but then
the field judge (guy with white hat), over-ruled and decided there actually was no penalty involved? Just guessing...

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by bweiss

Well, just so you know. The yellow flag being thrown during a play (penalty flag), in American football slang is known as; "Laundry on the field."

Not sure about your question without a replay, but sounds like a referee saw something he thought to be a violation of in-play rules; tossed the flag, but then
the field judge (guy with white hat), over-ruled and decided there actually was no penalty involved? Just guessing...

Thank you. What type of penalties can the judges give a player/team ?

Markus

[bweiss]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you. What type of penalties can the judges give a player/team ?
Markus

2023 NFL Rulebook

Explore the official 2023 NFL rulebook.
(Also available in pdf download).

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-rulebook/

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you. What type of penalties can the judges give a player/team ?

Markus

The short answer is that almost all football game infractions involve a loss of yardage to the offender ranging from 5 yards to 15 yards but there is also "at the point of the foul" and "half the distance to the goal" penalties which might result in much more.

Sometimes it also includes a loss of a down, although usually the down is replayed which is why sometimes the penalty will be declined by the other team. If the offender is playing defense an automatic first down is often awarded to the other team along with the yardage penalty.

In rare cases the referees will eject a player from the game. Those situations usually involve fighting or some other really egregious behavior.

[mapuc]

Thank you bweiss and August.

Have read some part here and there in this rulebook which bweiss provide to me. Puh it's a lot of paragraf to keep in mind, thank God I'm not a NFL referee remembering all these rules.

Markus

[bweiss]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you bweiss and August.

Have read some part here and there in this rulebook which bweiss provide to me. Puh it's a lot of paragraf to keep in mind, thank God I'm not a NFL referee remembering all these rules.

Markus

No problem, glad to help someone who's interested. Note of caution though, as remote as it may seem today. IMO the clock is ticking for the NFL,
as we know it at least, as in it's current form it is akin to the folks who made wooden wagon wheel spokes in the late 1800's.


Get ready for the the Masterbot Bowl, featuring the Chicago Cyborgs vs the Baltimore Bolts.


(1). A.I robotics. In the not to distant future; who would even know the difference, but anyway, A.I. robots can't sue:


https://www.newsnationnow.com/busine...dolphins-game/


https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/9/...s-sofi-stadium


https://ktla.com/sports/ai-robot-fan...dolphins-game/




(2). Human players, can sue:


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-...encephalopathy


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20370921


https://www.bumc.bu.edu/camed/2023/0...ayers-studied/


https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...phalopathy-cte



And in case anyone believes human team Euro Football isn't also headed down the same road:


https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chroni...ncephalopathy/


Just sayin...

[mapuc]

< Thank you for posting all these links.

The first one I was meet with following
"This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws."

The others was readable When I read about this CTE I came to think of an article in a Swedish newspaper, where they wrote heading a ball could case brain damage an English survey showed.

Well you had posted a link(the last) on this topic.

I'm on page two in this rulebook

I'm like

When reading following:
3. All line work is to be laid out to dimensions shown on the plan with a tolerance of plus one-fourth inch. All lines are straight

Of course we have laws on how a Soccer field should be like. I can't remember we have so precise rules on how the field has to be painted.

Markus

[bweiss]

Originally Posted by mapuc

< Thank you for posting all these links.

The first one I was meet with following
"This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws."

Markus

Yep, here we go...


The new EU laws are kicking in. We must censure your information for your own protection.
No telling what you might be thinking if we don't control it.

We now return control of your television set to you, until next week at this same time,
when the Control Voice will take you to... The Information Limits.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by August

The short answer is that almost all football game infractions involve a loss of yardage to the offender ranging from 5 yards to 15 yards but there is also "at the point of the foul" and "half the distance to the goal" penalties which might result in much more.

Sometimes it also includes a loss of a down, although usually the down is replayed which is why sometimes the penalty will be declined by the other team. If the offender is playing defense an automatic first down is often awarded to the other team along with the yardage penalty.

In rare cases the referees will eject a player from the game. Those situations usually involve fighting or some other really egregious behavior.

Nicely explained The complexity of the game is part of its appeal, and at times its frustration There's a great book I picked up a number of years ago by Pat Kirwan (NFL Sirius Radio), Take Your Eye Off the Ball: How to Watch Football by Knowing Where to Look. He has since published a 2.0, which I have yet to read, but no doubt will.

[August]

Originally Posted by ReallyDedPoet

Nicely explained The complexity of the game is part of its appeal, and at times its frustration There's a great book I picked up a number of years ago by Pat Kirwan (NFL Sirius Radio), Take Your Eye Off the Ball: How to Watch Football by Knowing Where to Look. He has since published a 2.0, which I have yet to read, but no doubt will.

Back in the day before live broadcast censor delays (thanks a lot Janet Jackson), I would watch the game on TV with the sound turned down and listen to the radio announcer do the play-by-play. I learned a lot about the game doing that. It's because the radio guy always gives a much better description of the formation setup and play while the TV announcer usually babbled about stats or something irrelevant.

I got to see what a shotgun formation looked like for example as it was being described in detail and knew who was setting up wide right or inside left or was stationed in the backfield.

Alas there is now a 15-30 second delay between what you hear on the radio and what you see on TV and it's too frustrating to monitor them both simultaneously.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Originally Posted by August

Back in the day before live broadcast censor delays (thanks a lot Janet Jackson), I would watch the game on TV with the sound turned down and listen to the radio announcer do the play-by-play. I learned a lot about the game doing that. It's because the radio guy always gives a much better description of the formation setup and play while the TV announcer usually babbled about stats or something irrelevant.

It's too bad about the delays you mention above now, because you hit the nail on the head. The live broadcast is like watching the movie. The radio, combined with the broadcast, is akin to reading the book, a much more comprehensive experience. The radio guys paint the picture, while on TV, they're more describing it.

I'll sometime listen to the game on NFL Sirius for that reason. Not often, but when I have, don't feel like I'm missing much.

[ReallyDedPoet]

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