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Old 08-09-23, 10:32 PM   #1
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Default Pre-War Pearl Harbour Raid Issue - TMO BH 2.0

Hey guys,

I'm a recent newcomer to the forums (couple years ago). Been enjoying the Trigger Maru mods for SH4, especially all of Bubblehead's work getting the TMO BH 2.0 update with all its addons and missions. It really adds to the immersion.

However, try as I might I just can't get the Pearl Harbour raid to work, just keep getting constant CTD's. I've found the LAA fix which has made SH4 run so much better and let me play most of the mods, but the Pearl Harbor raid just won't cooperate.

I've followed the readme carefully: stay more than 40NM away from Pearl and don't enter the Harbor close to the date until after midnight on December 7th. The first time I tried to do this, I just left the clock running from day dot (first patrol!) until December 7th after midnight - this didn't work. So I played through the missions up until September 1941 (if you dock after this time, your next patrol won't be until after 7th Dec). Followed the instructions. However, after midnight whenever I'm putting into Pearl Harbor, the game will just CTD at times after 05:00.

I finally managed to get my Narwhal into port at about 06:00. At about 06:15, the game just crashes. Even when I keep time compression off, just get a CTD. I've retried going into Pearl at night before the raid again, but it will crash whenever I try run time compression before that time, or it misses the raid entirely. I did manage to park my boat outside of the island and got to watch about 6-7 Zeroes strafing and dropping bombs on my sub, this was fun to watch (the readme says the AI will attack you on the surface so you need to stay submerged to watch the attack. Maybe I'm not supposed to watch it while in the harbour? You can dive to periscope depth, but it's pretty dangerous!!

I have a basic Intel Nuc i3 with 8GB ram (my gaming rig is out of action for the moment). The game runs really nice for the most part, and I've been enjoying TMO BH. I just want to see the fireworks and watch the silly AI planes try to do the Pearl Harbor raid. Any ideas on how to get it to not CTD? I have both the Pre-War Patch and Pearl Harbour Pre-War Battleship addons as per the readme.
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Old 08-10-23, 09:04 AM   #2
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Hey guys,

I'm a recent newcomer to the forums (couple years ago). Been enjoying the Trigger Maru mods for SH4, especially all of Bubblehead's work getting the TMO BH 2.0 update with all its addons and missions. It really adds to the immersion.

However, try as I might I just can't get the Pearl Harbour raid to work, just keep getting constant CTD's. I've found the LAA fix which has made SH4 run so much better and let me play most of the mods, but the Pearl Harbor raid just won't cooperate.

I've followed the readme carefully: stay more than 40NM away from Pearl and don't enter the Harbor close to the date until after midnight on December 7th. The first time I tried to do this, I just left the clock running from day dot (first patrol!) until December 7th after midnight - this didn't work. So I played through the missions up until September 1941 (if you dock after this time, your next patrol won't be until after 7th Dec). Followed the instructions. However, after midnight whenever I'm putting into Pearl Harbor, the game will just CTD at times after 05:00.

I finally managed to get my Narwhal into port at about 06:00. At about 06:15, the game just crashes. Even when I keep time compression off, just get a CTD. I've retried going into Pearl at night before the raid again, but it will crash whenever I try run time compression before that time, or it misses the raid entirely. I did manage to park my boat outside of the island and got to watch about 6-7 Zeroes strafing and dropping bombs on my sub, this was fun to watch (the readme says the AI will attack you on the surface so you need to stay submerged to watch the attack. Maybe I'm not supposed to watch it while in the harbour? You can dive to periscope depth, but it's pretty dangerous!!

I have a basic Intel Nuc i3 with 8GB ram (my gaming rig is out of action for the moment). The game runs really nice for the most part, and I've been enjoying TMO BH. I just want to see the fireworks and watch the silly AI planes try to do the Pearl Harbor raid. Any ideas on how to get it to not CTD? I have both the Pre-War Patch and Pearl Harbour Pre-War Battleship addons as per the readme.
ahoy stoobeedoo,

can you post your config?
JSGME-Tasks-Export to Clipboard, then paste here (ctrl+v)
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Old 08-10-23, 04:42 PM   #3
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ahoy stoobeedoo,

can you post your config?
JSGME-Tasks-Export to Clipboard, then paste here (ctrl+v)
Heya,

I have two configs I use, as I have two saves labelled differently for different periods of the war.

For my 1941 start, I use the following:

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Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Games\steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS]

TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_00_Main
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_01_Nav Map Make-Over TMO Update 2.0
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_02_NMMO Patch TMO Update V2.0
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_03_Req_EAX_Clang_Splash_Dud for TMO Update
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_04_Addon_Pre-PearlHarborPatch TMO Update V2.0
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_04_Addon_BBPearlHarbor Pre War TMO
This is the setup I used with the Pre-War game.

I have another saved campaign for 1942, labelled as needed. When I'm playing post Pearl Harbour Raid (Brisbane S/42 Missions) I use the following:

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Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Games\steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunters Wolves of the Pacific\MODS]

TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_00_Main
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_01_Nav Map Make-Over TMO Update 2.0
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_02_NMMO Patch TMO Update V2.0
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_03_Req_EAX_Clang_Splash_Dud for TMO Update
TMO 2.5 BH V2.0_03a_Radio_BrisbaneTF42 72 messages

The 'Main' Mod is just the Data folder from the Zip file. I just renamed and numbered the folders so appear in order of required install.
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Old 08-10-23, 08:26 PM   #4
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Old 08-29-23, 12:52 PM   #5
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I see this load order above--

Trigger Maru Overhaul 2.5 UpdateBH V2.0
Nav Map Make-Over TMO Update 2.0
NMMO Patch TMO Update V2.0
TMO Update BH V2.0 PATCH 01
AlliedShipsTMO
ShipsforTMO
EAX_Clang_Splash

If I have TMO 2.5-BH loaded, do I still need the TMO update 2.0 Patch? It seems as though that would be for an earlier version. The reason I ask is that I still get CTDs whenever I attack a convoy or multiple ships. The attack map seems to cause CTDs also. My load order is pretty much the sme as the above, but without the patch. Any suggestions?

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I see this load order above--

Trigger Maru Overhaul 2.5 UpdateBH V2.0
Nav Map Make-Over TMO Update 2.0
NMMO Patch TMO Update V2.0
TMO Update BH V2.0 PATCH 01
AlliedShipsTMO
ShipsforTMO
EAX_Clang_Splash

If I have TMO 2.5-BH loaded, do I still need the TMO update 2.0 Patch? It seems as though that would be for an earlier version. The reason I ask is that I still get CTDs whenever I attack a convoy or multiple ships. The attack map seems to cause CTDs also. My load order is pretty much the sme as the above, but without the patch. Any suggestions?



Thanks.
Pearl Harbor is a tricky one due to variations in performance of computers.

Pretty stable for me and yes its safer to stay outside harbor and use the external cam to watch the battle. However, I've submerged inside harbor and watched it successfully, try to stay as deep as possible, pop up with periscope.

Thing is when youre in harbor, the sim has to render your boat, which is a detailed model, the ships in harbor, the planes, explosions etc, it can be overwhelming for some rigs.


Why did you omit the patch? Follow README install instructions for best performance and stability.
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Old 08-29-23, 09:56 PM   #7
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BH, there are so many Readme's that I didn't know where to begin. Also, the Readme in the main mod's support documents lists this as the load order--

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5_UpdateBH
NavMapMakeoverTMOUpdate (Required-Included)
NavMapmakeoverTMOupdatePatch (Required-Included)
EAX_Clang_Splash_Dud for TMO Update(Required-Included)
Any other Requiired mods or add ons.
Any Optional mods included with TMO and TMOupdate.



The patch isn't listed. If you look at what forum members posts, the patch isn't listed by most. It's confusing. That it says 2.0 patch while the main mod says 2.5 led me to believe that it was for an earlier version only.

I always start outside of port. The CTDs happen when I'm attacking a convoy, almost always--A\ Shortly after the torpedoes are fired, and/or-B\ When I use the attack map to track them.

I'm going to try it with the patch now. Thanks.
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