Titanic firm submersible missing.

Bera · 06-20-23, 12:52 PM

Does this death machine have ballast tanks? How does depth control work?

Rockstar · 06-20-23, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bera

Does this death machine have ballast tanks? How does depth control work?

According to a journalist's inquiry into its operation. "Some of the ballast are these abandoned lead pipes from construction sites and the way you ditch them is everybody gets to one side of the sub, and they roll off a shelf.”

A lot of good that system would do if you're stuck in the mud.

Bera · 06-20-23, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

According to a journalist's inquiry into its operation. "Some of the ballast are these abandoned lead pipes from construction sites and the way you ditch them is everybody gets to one side of the sub, and they roll off a shelf.”

A lot of good that system would do if you're stuck in the mud.

Is this a joke or are you serious?

AVGWarhawk · 06-20-23, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bera

Is this a joke or are you serious?

Judging by the other materials and less than stellar hardware used to create this sarcophagus it would not surprise me.

Bera · 06-20-23, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bera

Is this a joke or are you serious?

No, he´s not joking:

https://www.insider.com/people-missi...t-guard-2023-6

However, since it is a very simple method to get it afloat, makes me think that the submarine somehow imploded before they could ever do something to resurface.

ET2SN · 06-20-23, 01:36 PM

Don't fixate on the simple design.

With deep submergence, you want a very simple design to minimize cascade failures.

You also want a very experienced crew for when things go wrong.

Skybird · 06-20-23, 01:48 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65960217

I dont get it. Not certificated because it is experimental (=in development) and they do not want authorities to hinder the speed of progress - but nevetheless taking passengers...?

And look at that diagram of the inside. No windows, just in front for the pilot a little lookout. Yes, I know deep diving submerisbale are built like this, only small outlooks. But why does anyone not beign scientist or technician havign a professional need for the trip want to book a ride in this thing? I dont get it, but okay...

If it was able to get back to the surface, it may still be mostyl submersed, hovering in and under the ocean surface with only a tiny bit sticking out of the water, so it will still be difficult to find, but then there is at least a chance that their lives can be saved.

But if it is on the ground, I hope for all onboard that they are already dead, else there is nightmare ahead of them. And obviously nobody has a clue how to get the boat up from 4000. No chance, it seems.

Also, it wanted to visit the Titanic, so likely has started the decent in the close vicinity of the wreck. So if the sub sank, it must have landed on or near the Titanic, most likely - making not a single sonar operator in the world happy.

mapuc · 06-20-23, 02:23 PM

Whether they are alive or dead, most likely dead by now, the sub must be found. There are submersible who can dive deeper than 4000 meters and I hope one of few of these is on its way.

If the sub has imploded then I wonder how much there's left of it.

Markus

06-20-23, 01:48 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,714 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65960217 I dont get it. Not certificated because it is experimental (=in development) and they do not want authorities to hinder the speed of progress - but nevetheless taking passengers...? And look at that diagram of the inside. No windows, just in front for the pilot a little lookout. Yes, I know deep diving submerisbale are built like this, only small outlooks. But why does anyone not beign scientist or technician havign a professional need for the trip want to book a ride in this thing? I dont get it, but okay... If it was able to get back to the surface, it may still be mostyl submersed, hovering in and under the ocean surface with only a tiny bit sticking out of the water, so it will still be difficult to find, but then there is at least a chance that their lives can be saved. But if it is on the ground, I hope for all onboard that they are already dead, else there is nightmare ahead of them. And obviously nobody has a clue how to get the boat up from 4000. No chance, it seems. Also, it wanted to visit the Titanic, so likely has started the decent in the close vicinity of the wreck. So if the sub sank, it must have landed on or near the Titanic, most likely - making not a single sonar operator in the world happy. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-20-23 at 02:29 PM.

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,559 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Whether they are alive or dead, most likely dead by now, the sub must be found. There are submersible who can dive deeper than 4000 meters and I hope one of few of these is on its way. If the sub has imploded then I wonder how much there's left of it. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

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ET2SN Ocean Warrior Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,652 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Don't fixate on the simple design. With deep submergence, you want a very simple design to minimize cascade failures. You also want a very experienced crew for when things go wrong.