[Politics] Canadian accused of being Hezbollah Spy

[scandium]

I suppose what troubles me most is that he has been jailed for weeks now without being charged with anything. Here in Canada anyone if you are arrested then there is a burden upon the police and judicial system to bring you before a Magistrate for arraignment within 24 hours. I realise Israel is not Canada, but still this has to be what - 3 weeks now without even being charged with anything. I know we have forum members here who are living or haved lived in Israel and maybe they might answer a question: is this normal over there?

[Skybird]

Don't know, but it seems to coincident with the length of the war. If Canada would wage war, your police would be a bit over-alarmed or even paranoid, too, I suppose. It could also mean that htey have something substantial against him. Israel is under constant terror threats. Their police is less forgiving and less restricted about certain things than european polices (which have implemented special terror treatments with sometimes drastically lengthened arrest times, too).

[NeonSamurai]

Also in Canada and many other countries there are certain laws available, especialy during a time of war where people can be held indefinatly and with out being charged with any crime.

[scandium]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Also in Canada and many other countries there are certain laws available, especialy during a time of war where people can be held indefinatly and with out being charged with any crime.

What laws? Cite them. We recently paid out a multi-million dollar settlement to the Japanese Canadians for doing just that when we interred them for years without chargeor trial during WWII; this was an admission that even though we were at war with Japan we had no right to detain these people indefinitely without trial. In fact, the Canadian Criminal code (if you've ever seen it) lays out very clear and unambiguous rules that have to be followed regarding arrest and detention; then there is the Charter of Rights and Freedoms as well which states very clearly that:

I.9 Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.

I.10 Everyone has the right on arrest or detention

a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.

[August]

Originally Posted by scandium

I.10 Everyone has the right on arrest or detention

a) to be informed promptly of the reasons therefor;
b) to retain and instruct counsel without delay and to be informed of that right; and
c) to have the validity of the detention determined by way of habeas corpus and to be released if the detention is not lawful.

Were the German POWs held in Canada during WW2 afforded these rights?

[scandium]

Originally Posted by August

Were the German POWs held in Canada during WW2 afforded these rights?

Relevance? The Canadian held in question has dual citizenship, Canadian & Israeli, and therefore its one of their own citizens they are detaining without charge (who is also one of ours) and not a foreign prisoner of war - or is Israel at war with Canada now?

[Edit] here's a hint to help you get it August: as an Israeli citizen, and based on the circumstances surrounding his arrest, what is applicable here is that they have to either charge him with espionage, or treason, or release him, and cannot hold one of their own citizens as a prisoner of war until the "war on terror" ends, which it never will.

[August]

Originally Posted by scandium

here's a hint to help you get it August

Scandium sheesh, I was just asking. Don't be so defensive, and i could do without yet another one of your usually inaccurate digs at my country thank you very much.

Personally I feel if they really suspect the old man of espionage then they should have just have taken his camera away and kicked him out of the country, at least until the war is over.