Mass Shooting thread

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

An interesting psychological approach.

A bad guy goes into a bar, where he look around and see at least two men with guns(open carry) he pull his gun from his belt and shot these two person first, then he looked around and see how people try to escape the crime scene. He start to fire his gun on people here and there, while they try to escape.

There are additional 3 more who carry gun openly-
Will they try to escape-Fear ?
Or
Would they take a stand and neutralize the perpetrator ?

Even though a person has the right to carry a gun openly in his or her state-Isn't the same as they wouldn't go into panic when someone starts to shoot wildly.

This is what some forget-the Psychological aspect of it.

Markus

In your scenario you have criminal somehow able to find and identify three open carriers in a crowded bar. Then shoot all three of them before even one has time to fire back. Doesn't seem all that realistic to me and would require the criminal to have far more discipline than you credit legal firearm carriers with.

Can you list any innocent bystanders that were ever hit or killed by a legal firearms carrier while he is defending himself against a criminal? The way you talk it must happen every day so i'd be interested in seeing what must be a huge list of victims. You do know of some instances right?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

In your scenario you have criminal somehow able to find and identify three open carriers in a crowded bar. Then shoot all three of them before even one has time to fire back. Doesn't seem all that realistic to me and would require the criminal to have far more discipline than you credit legal firearm carriers with.

Can you list any innocent bystanders that were ever hit or killed by a legal firearms carrier while he is defending himself against a criminal? The way you talk it must happen every day so i'd be interested in seeing what must be a huge list of victims. You do know of some instances right?

I know my English Grammar isn't perfect.
The story is a made up story

I wrote that he found two men with open carry while he looked around the first time and shot them first, he then toke another look and could see people rushing to the entré to get out-What he didn't see was that there was 3 more men with open carry.

The question is-How will they react, when the perpetrator starts to shoot wildly into the fleeing crowd ?

Secondly

There has been an another mass shooting, this time in Kentucky

Five people are dead after a gunman opened fire in a first-floor conference room of a bank in downtown Louisville, Kentucky, Monday morning, according to police.

Six additional victims, including a police officer, were transported to the hospital.

https://abc7chicago.com/active-shoot...oday/13109212/

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The question is-How will they react, when the perpetrator starts to shoot wildly into the fleeing crowd

And my question is when have you ever heard of that happening? There are many examples of an armed citizen stopping a crime in progress but I have yet to hear of any instances that back up your theory.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

And my question is when have you ever heard of that happening? There are many examples of an armed citizen stopping a crime in progress but I have yet to hear of any instances that back up your theory.

Well then I was wrong in my made up story.

I was thinking that open carry wasn't the same as having cold blood in the vene.

I do understand that most of these people has trained in using their guns.

This mass shooting in Kentucky toke place in a state where:
Any person 21 years of age or older who can legally possess a firearm under State and Federal Law can carry a concealed handgun in the State of
Kentucky without a permit.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

This mass shooting in Kentucky toke place in a state where:
Any person 21 years of age or older who can legally possess a firearm under State and Federal Law can carry a concealed handgun in the State of
Kentucky without a permit.

Markus

And previous killings have taken place in California which has the toughest gun control laws in the country. Not sure what point you are making here.

[Otto Harkaman]

Jan 21, 2023 California Monterey Park 12 Killed 9 Injured

Chinese Lunar New Year celebration. "man opened fire with a machine gun and stopped to reload." - witness; Related to 121 S Garfield Ave, Alhambra (non shooting) incident at Lai Lai ballroom suspect shot self in standoff in Torrance - Hawthorne and Sepulveda Blvd Gun assault pistol
Source:
https://patch.com/california/los-ang...olice-response

Jan 23, 2023 California Half Moon Bay 7 Killed 1 Injured

incident stemmed from his anger over a $100 equipment bill after wrecking a forklift
Source:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...ed/ar-AA16Ki8X

[Otto Harkaman]

13 Mass shootings in California this year vs 1 in Kentucky, so far

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/r...sc&order=State