[Hollowtics] Do we need a seperate forum for Political discussions ?

[Skybird]

No. Neal just said it yesterday, and I agree: if there is a new forum, it is only a question of time until people will complain again that that place is "out of control". Also, the GT is a lively place with a wide variety of things, and that'S what it is there for. i also think that political debates are not so much the porblem, even when going hot. The start to become a pain when one or two individuals start to think they must no longer care about basic manners and behavior since the other has an opinion that qualifies him as a dumb head that does not deserve even the minimum of politeness. Problems of the past not so much have been WHAT some one says, but HOW he deals with the others. and bad behavior can show up in any kind of discussion, not only in political ones.

[Takeda Shingen]

We have too many forums on this board as it is: A World Cup (now over) forum, a Chess Club forum (that no one uses), a Submarine Book forum (also seldom used), two SH IV forums (despite the fact that we have not seen as much as a screen shot yet) and a forum dedicated to a single Dangerous Waters campaign.

At this rate, I will have to scroll past 37 other forums just to find the one that discusses only blue jellybeans.

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

a Submarine Book forum (also seldom used)

That´s not only a book forum. "The catch-all for discussions about submarine and naval books, movies, scale models, and other media."

two SH IV forums (despite the fact that we have not seen as much as a screen shot yet)

There´s only one.

[Takeda Shingen]

[quote=Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

That´s not only a book forum. "The catch-all for discussions about submarine and naval books, movies, scale models, and other media."

Call it whatever you like; it is still seldom used.

There´s only one.[SH IV forum]

I see that now. However, last week the SH III forum read: SH III/IV None-the-less, we still have a forum for a game that is still Pre-Alpha.

[Drebbel]

I see that now. However, last week the SH III forum read: SH III/IV None-the-less, we still have a forum for a game that is still Pre-Alpha.

Yes, that is so amazing about subsim. SubSim has a popular forum about a future game ! Friends and Enemy where surprised, SubSim diod it again

And actually there are 5 pre-game forums on SubSim

[Takeda Shingen]

Have it your way Drebbel. You feel that I seek to, somehow, undermine Neal Stevens, and regret is what I feel for having entered this discussion.

How again goes it? Ah, yes:

Geh' hin, Knecht!
Kniee vor Fricka:
meld' ihr, dass Wotans Speer
gerächt, was Spott ihr schuf. -
Geh'! - Geh'!

By my troth, I am off!

[Drebbel]

No, not afraid for undermining. Sorry mate if you got that impression, did not want to chase you away at all.

Your poem looks like a mix of African and German, I recognized a few words but it basically is still a deep dark secret.

I remember many zears ago I was against Neal to split up his forum in multiple forums. I just wanted to keep everything one big forum :-)

But now I have get accustomed to more forums and think it is a good idea. Ofcourse there are some forums that I never visit but I do support the multiple forum system, there suggested one more, the political forum. But the moment I started the thread I knew it was a lost battle.

But please don't take the SHIV forum away. I like it :-) Besides, SHIV will be announced officially soon

[Drebbel]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

We have too many forums on this board as it is: A World Cup (now over) forum

Agree, lets merge it with GT forum

a Chess Club forum (that no one uses),

Merge that one too

a Submarine Book forum (also seldom used),

That forum is quite popular and has over 1500 posts

two SH IV forums

2 ? I only count one.

(despite the fact that we have not seen as much as a screen shot yet)

Does that matter ? It is a lively forum with over 3000 posts, so it is proven there is a "market" for this forum. And we certainly can not delete the first ever SHIV forum in the world because there are no screenshots available for the public yet ! :-)

and a forum dedicated to a single Dangerous Waters campaign.

Good stuff deserves a forum. And I think some one decided this is good stuff

At this rate, I will have to scroll past 37 other forums just to find the one that discusses only blue jellybeans.

Just close the groups you are not interested in, and hey, you better sell you computer if you hate scrolling.

I also think political discussions belong in the GT, but I am totally fed up by insulting threads of people that think that the world consists of criminals and they have the solution for everything by just reading a couple of news papers, browsing the web, from their chairs.

I have made proposals to split thing up before and I know it will not make it. But maybe a thread like this will make some people realize that the world is about people, and politics too, and do not judge those people from you good old sweet home by listing every wrong step those politicians make.

We all goof up, in personal live, in business, in science, and in politics. But we all also do many good thing.

These people seem to forget they are human too and just as no good as the average human being !

[Drebbel]

i also think that political debates are not so much the porblem,

I think they are, people seem to forget people live in the countries they are bashing. They talk about politics as if it was science, and totally forget about what people living in those countries will think when they read the threads.

And hey, it does not matter what Neal says. I still remember the days that there was 1 forum, amd now SubSim has 28 public forums

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by Drebbel

and totally forget about what people living in those countries will think when they read the threads.

It´s impossible to please everyone. If they don´t like what they read they can either counter it if they know better or they should simply ignore it.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Drebbel

I think they are, people seem to forget people live in the countries they are bashing. They talk about politics as if it was science, and totally forget about what people living in those countries will think when they read the threads.

And hey, it does not matter what Neal says. I still remember the days that there was 1 forum, amd now SubSim has 28 public forums

but is there so much country-specific-bashing, currently, with the exception of the war in the ME? currently things are tame on the US, on France, it seems to me. Cannot remember what the last dedicated country-nbashing thread was, with regard to these three, for example. but maybe I'm getting old and my brain already desintegrates...