[Politics] Lebanon Aid Appeals

[Skybird]

Safe-Keeper,

since you are very emotional, I cut it short only. If Hezbollah is hiding inside schools and universities, do not complain when these get bombed. If they store rocket launchers and ammos in the cellar of civilian blociks, do not be surprised if these get hit. If ambulances also come to rescue Hezbollah members, do not be surprised that they get bombed as well. Hezbollah may use telephone lines and electricity, so do not be surprised that they get bombed, too. that's what you do in war, you reduce the tools and means available to your enemy, at all costs. You cannot fight him in a different way. Why do you think Hezbollah is infitrating the civilian society so enthusiastically? Because it believes it is untouchable then. It is inhumane, and carefless, and shows not the smallest concern for civilian lifes. Hezbollah effectively uses Lebanese as human shields. You may be willing to give up, because of their gangster methods. Israel, victim of ongoing bombings and terror strikes since years and years, sees it differently.

If a humanitarian escape corridor cannot be controlled on the ground by Israeli forces, so that Hezbollah can evacuate fighters, weapons and ammunitions through it, than that option is a total no-go. You shall not help your enemy in battle to escape, reorganize and attack you again later on. that is the cruel logic of war - killing the enemy, not assisting him.

[Safe-Keeper]

If Hezbollah is hiding inside schools and universities, do not complain when these get bombed.

I'm not surprised at all. It's the kind of Israeli brutality I've come to know and loathe over the years.

As for the partisans hiding in schools and universities: Prove it.

If they store rocket launchers and ammos in the cellar of civilian blociks, do not be surprised if these get hit.

Again: Prove that there were rockets stored in building x.

If ambulances also come to rescue Hezbollah members, do not be surprised that they get bombed as well.

Fair enough that you hate the Hezbollah, but to deny them and civilians medical care is a bit over-the-top, don't you think? If someone's lying there with severe injuries, then they're not exactly combatants. And even if they were, don't the 100 civilians near him deserve medical aid?

You cannot fight him in a different way.

Read up on other conflicts, please. I don't remember the US bombing Red Cross ambulances in Afghanistan, yet we seemed to win that one quite easily. I don't think allowing neutral organizations to provide medical aid to wounded is going to lose anyone a war (and I think someone needs to read up on the Red Cross manifesto).

Why do you think Hezbollah is infitrating the civilian society so enthusiastically? Because it believes it is untouchable then.

Sure. It's not like Israel's showing a complete disregard for civilian life.

It is inhumane, and carefless, and shows not the smallest concern for civilian lifes.

That describes Israel quite well, yes:p.

Hezbollah effectively uses Lebanese as human shields.

No, they just happen to live among them, like nearly all resistance fighters, partisans, and guerilla members, from the Michigan Militia and the US National Guard to the partisans fighting the Nazis in World War II.

Returning home when you're off-duty is not "hiding behind civilians". If the Hezbollah made the basement of a hospital their HQ, that'd be hiding behind civilians. If they have families to return home to after-action, that's not "hiding behind civilians".

You may be willing to give up, because of their gangster methods.

Typical pro-Israeli rhetoric: "Not condoning massacres of civilians=Giving up completely and letting the terrorists do whatever they want". The world's grey, not black-and-white.

Israel, victim of ongoing bombings and terror strikes since years and years, sees it differently.

Israel has zero right whatsoever to complain about terrorism as long as it kills 100 times as many terrorists itself.

As for me being emotional: Well, it's not much better to subscribe to obvious hatred such as yours, either, is it now (your condoning of massacring neutral Red Crescent ambulances convinced me you're nothing but another extremist). If I keep debating with you, I'll end up in tears, and I've got enough problems in life as it is. Happy hating.

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Fair enough that you hate the Hezbollah...

Well, it's not much better to subscribe to obvious hatred such as yours, either, is it now?

Without even trying to take sides, I have to observe that you seem to hate Israel as one-sidedly as you accuse others of hating Hezbollah. I don't see your arguments as any more reasoned that you accuse theirs of being. Is there not the remotest possibility you're wrong?