Das Boot

[Myxale]

Bloody right the book rules! The storm chapters are my favorite.



Oh as for our recently banned resident Troll...well to bad, i thought he got better in behavin'!

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by gmuno

Have you the German or the English version? The German one is more juicy

Do you mean the movie or book? The book is english version, the movie can be viewed as both. I seem to like watching the movie in the german language even tho i dont know German, its more realistic to watch it in german (with subtitles of course )

But yeah Myxale the storm chapters are a real eye opener! Excellent read.

The book. In the movie, the english subtitles are sometimes way of the spoken words. I've seen somewhere that the english version of the book is a bit rewritten, about 10 pages summed up, mostly parts of the NCO-conversations .

[Rose]

Its quite hard for people who don't know German to read an entire book in German... But I see where you're coming from, Gmuno.

[Wilko]

I havn't been able to find a copy of the English version, only the German version and as I can't read German have not read this book yet

Amazon should have it.

[Wilko]

Yeah that will be my fall back, but I'd like to find it here in Aussie so as to keep shipping costs down

[P_Funk]

Okay I've figured out why Das Boot is such a great movie and why it eclipses every other movie of its kind despite its shortcomings. I say its because it is primarily about characters. Its about the men who are on the boat and not about some conveluted story about ending the war with heroic deeds. It is a real story. Whatever details were changed the story of Das Boot is what those men felt and the lengths they went to do their duty while it appeared to be a lost cause. And that is why it is still a better movie than one with more money and better graphics and big name actors. It's an intrinsically human story that has more to do with human beings than WW2.

Alnother reason it works so well is because its based off of real events and not a story invented by a writer who took the time to google a famous battle and some military terminology. I mean they make so many ficticious stories about wars which makes little sense to me simply because there are millions of incredible stories in WW2 and WW1 and everything inbetween and since all of which are way better than the crap they invent in Hollywood. I swear a movie about my grandfather in WW2 would be perfect. Being a Commando and meeting Churchill, being behind the lines in France, Norway, Malta, North Africa, being a Tank Commander on D-Day, filling his comnpany's water truck up with beer from a french brewery and meeting Patton and mouthing off to him when he's being a dick saying bad **** about the Canadian Army. Plus all those disgusting horror stories inbetween where young men die crying for their moms.

Please Hollywood we don't need anymore armchair fiction about WW2. Just call up a few vets and get their stories.

[joea]

P-Funk, ya got it man.

That's why Band of Brothers is so perfect. It not only tells the true story, it includes comments by the real guys who are portrayed in the series. It's why I'll take Tora! Tora! Tora! or The Longest Day over Saving Private Ryan any time.

Das Boot is unique in that it doesn't really have a plot; it just follows a patrol as it goes from bad to worse. The only thing I can imagine being better would be a movie about one of the real aces.

[Harmsway!]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's why Band of Brothers is so perfect. It not only tells the true story, it includes comments by the real guys who are portrayed in the series. It's why I'll take Tora! Tora! Tora! or The Longest Day over Saving Private Ryan any time.

Das Boot is unique in that it doesn't really have a plot; it just follows a patrol as it goes from bad to worse. The only thing I can imagine being better would be a movie about one of the real aces.

My thoughts exactly. As I was reading P_Funks comment I wondered if he hasn't seen Band of Brothers. I read a good review and bought Band of Brothers without any further knowelge of it. Am I glad I did. After watching BOB I watched Saving Private Ryan again. It just does'nt compare.

Now I just need to shell out the change a get the full version of Das Boot. It hard for me to watch my directors cut knowing there is more.

[P_Funk]

I adore Band of Brothers! Saving Private Ryan is good for that opening scene of the actual landing, you know, before the main story was introduced. I've heard that they even use that opening sequence in some classes as educational content. However BoB is the best. I love the characters. And the way they manage to portray actual events while maintaining character development for such a wide base of characters is a real triumph. I like to see BoB at least once a year. In fact I'm feeling an inckling.:hmm: The 2nd one where they take out that 88mm battery is very good. But Carentan is alot of fun too. It's so hard to decide!

[bigboywooly]

Yes Das Boot ranks up there with the Battle of Britain and Dambusters for me - maybe a little 633 sqaudron thrown in too lol
Its the immersive value and the characters that make the film - in German of course

[_Seth_]

Jusy checking that all works... Where the h*** is the excellent page http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ ??? seems like some jerks hacked it..

[kiwi_2005]

Enemy at the gates - good movie