Chess Match: Shady Bill vs. Skybird

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

What I do not know is-When one of them plays defensive or offensive.

Just follow the tears.

I - or others - can explain some things later on, but you certainly understand that neither will I give away ideas that in the future of the match maybe will become relevant and so giving them away early would be to my disadvantage, nor will I say anything that compromises Bill or works to his disadvantage. But to have a little chatter and talk about events earlier in the game that are no longer relevant is the idea behind having this all as a public exibition match on a board where people can watch, else players could just play either via PM or on an online site or - in my case - prefer to just launch a chess app, give it a handicap and then play the AI. Because honestly said, and speaking for myself only, if I want to play a live match at the board/table in one rush, i do not car whether I play a human or an app. To m e its the same result: I play an opponent in one rush, in one session. Mostly, I do not do that. The fun of this match for me lies in the setting of a forum match.

At home I sometimes run longtime matches against the chess app on my PC dektop, I open it once a day, get the AI's moves (after frustratingly short time...) and then think on my move, and maybe go in and out of that app severla times over the day, until I enter a move. That way I play a match with the AI over several days, as if it were CC. The qualit yof my plays is on a much hiughe rlkevel this way, becasue I run much lower risk to fall for stupid easy mistakes and overlooking things, and sometimes good ideas ripe wioth time, not in just ten mionutes of analysis. I know how it feels to sit 3 or 4 hours at the board and table in a tournament, I did that at school age and immediately after school, in s club, but I never liked it, and never liked tournament settings at all. Today, I just do not have the patience for such things. Hours and hours, no. I run in intervals now.



I have Fritz 11, so its very old now. I had other engiones, too, but I do not care anymore.


Same way I do sometimes with my Android mobiles. Here, i mostly use Shredder for Android. Genius also is isntalled. For sentimental reasons and remembering the good ol' times.

But there are so many good choices, and evertyhing that was coded in the past ten years or so is a killer if not run with handicaps or auto-adjusting difficulty levels (very good method, btw.). Chess in parts has become a "solved" game, like Checkers.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Just follow the tears.

[Shady Bill]

3. f3


When I play much stronger rated players than myself, I tend to do two things;
1) Try to get away from main lines quickly, knowing their opening theory is most likely much better than mine 2) I try to bog them down in horse manure. kneedeep, dirty, smelly manure.

I envision the chessboard to be a dark, wet, damp field. A terrible place of death. Trench warfare like that of WWI. I want to create confusion and frustration.

I prefer closed games, leaving little room for movement.

I value my cavalry over my clergy.


Will Skybird win? and at what cost? War is ugly, but necessary.



Your move

[mapuc]

It's not called offensive play or opening it's called aggressive play/openings.

Here's a video about 7 known aggressive openings



When it comes to defensive play there's a lot of video and all is about black. Those I have been looking at.

Markus

[Shady Bill]

I set up two of my boards for the match. I use my club board which is my roll-up board and I have the largest, heaviest plastic pieces. I love these because they hold up to dropping and falling. Except the ears of the knights. All my ears are missing, from having been dropped. I envision my earless horses strike fear into the hearts of my enemy

I also set out my early 20th century Javanese chess board.

They hand carve boards and chess pieces in Java, Indonesia.This is purely
for tourist trade. This started in the late 19th century I believe. The board is nicely carved, it is a much better example than those I have seen online. Early on, these chess sets were carved by artisans in the villages of this region.

My uncle would travel to Indonesia in the 1960-1970s for business, and he gave it to me years later. I guess in his estimation it is a 1910-1920 made set.


I will figure out how to post some pics of it.

[Shady Bill]

Is there anyone who would play a game of Alice chess?

I have had a terrible time finding people to play this with. People who are good at chess, often find it disorienting and frustrating. But it is SO fun!!

It requires you to have two chess boards set up.


The main rule is;

At the beginning of the game, pieces start in their normal positions on board A, while board B starts empty. At each turn, a player can choose whether to move on board A or B. Pieces move the same as they do in standard chess, but, at the completion of its move, a piece goes "through the looking-glass", transferring to the corresponding square on the opposite board. This simple change has dramatic impact on game play.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_chess


Be neat to have a thread for Alice chess variant. Maybe after this match I can convince Skybird to get out his 2nd board haha

[Skybird]

your move 3. f2-f3 my move 3. .../ g7-g6


bilder einfach hochladen

[Shady Bill]

Originally Posted by Skybird

your move 3. f2-f3 my move 3. .../ g7-g6

4. Bg5




I really like your chess set, Skybird. Very beautiful indeed. Gorgeous grain in the wood.



Look forward to see how you decide to respond to above move. It will decide most of the rest of the battle. Be cautious, this bishop's chalice might not contain wine. It could very well be poison. Dressed in robes of white, he may bring only death.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Shady Bill

Is there anyone who would play a game of Alice chess?

I have had a terrible time finding people to play this with. People who are good at chess, often find it disorienting and frustrating. But it is SO fun!!

It requires you to have two chess boards set up.


The main rule is;

At the beginning of the game, pieces start in their normal positions on board A, while board B starts empty. At each turn, a player can choose whether to move on board A or B. Pieces move the same as they do in standard chess, but, at the completion of its move, a piece goes "through the looking-glass", transferring to the corresponding square on the opposite board. This simple change has dramatic impact on game play.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_chess

Be neat to have a thread for Alice chess variant. Maybe after this match I can convince Skybird to get out his 2nd board haha

If you like crazy stuff, try this, its called 5D chess:



Priceless! - "I assembled a death squad of Queens and sent them back to the beginning of the game to assassinate the enemy king by simultaneously checkmating him across 5 different dimensions in 3 different timelines."




Personally, I am conservative, I stick to the proven stuff I know.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Shady Bill

I set up two of my boards for the match. I use my club board which is my roll-up board and I have the largest, heaviest plastic pieces. I love these because they hold up to dropping and falling. Except the ears of the knights. All my ears are missing, from having been dropped. I envision my earless horses strike fear into the hearts of my enemy

I also set out my early 20th century Javanese chess board.

They hand carve boards and chess pieces in Java, Indonesia.This is purely
for tourist trade. This started in the late 19th century I believe. The board is nicely carved, it is a much better example than those I have seen online. Early on, these chess sets were carved by artisans in the villages of this region.

My uncle would travel to Indonesia in the 1960-1970s for business, and he gave it to me years later. I guess in his estimation it is a 1910-1920 made set.


I will figure out how to post some pics of it.

With boards, I am a conservative traditionalist as well, but I like some beuaty in these. this is my main board, tournament size, Staunton pieces. I looked for a Staunton set in these colours for over a decade, exactly these proportions in every piece and the knights exactly carved the way they are done here, not different. This set is my ideal for a chess set, down to the smnallest detail. I was obsessed with getting it this way, and I refused to buy dozens of closely looking but not "exactly right"pieces. A bit exccentric possibly, but all the happier I was when I finally found these! Like I do not need ten watches but wanted them for their beautiful looks, I wanted this set as well, I would have paid any price for it. In the end it was very reasonable. I have a few more, very small ones in fine wood, and one 4cm/square- sized board (got it when I was 6 years old, plus the (stored away) Mephisto Exclusive board.

[mapuc]

Hear hear the match is on both has made their third move-Come and bet on one of them.

Since I do not know which one of them is going to win I have both for 1 for 8.(is that correct ? I'm not families with the betting system you have in UK or USA)
Here it's simple like 2.35-10.00-2.35 which mean if you bet 100 kroner you will get 235 kroner or if it become a REMI 1000 Kr.

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Shady Bill

1) Try to get away from main lines quickly, knowing their opening theory is most likely much better than mine 2) I try to bog them down in horse manure. kneedeep, dirty, smelly manure.

Thats what I do against computers, to avoid their opening library. That worked wiht table computers in the 80s and 90s. Today databses for endgames and openigns are so huge that it is pratically not possible to make a move that ahsd not been calculated.

Thats why some pro players - including Carlsen for example - argue we should switch to randomised setups in chess, where on the 1st and 8th row all pieces are randomly shuffled (but symmetrical via their opposing counterparts at the other end of the board). That way, the whole known opening theory would be completed invalidated.


Luxury problems of star players. Pffft...

[Skybird]

Fun on a sunny but boring sunday: this is my working garage.



Those 3D visuals work very well, I use them often when occaisonally playing against the PC. As one can see, the board perspective is quite comparable, so is the size of squares and pieces (the real board has 5cm squares and pieces in tournament height, and they are heavy). If I run a match, I would have notation window on and off via keyboard command if need be. In engine-off mode like currently I can click and hold and move pieces like on a real board via mouse. I do not like playing via 2D diagrams - the big contra for me to play on mobile devices. Call me exccentric. I am.

On the right rim you can see my ally, aide and little spy who helps me out by whispering me moves. I never play without some nuts in my pockets.


When i played CC tournaments, I even made notes on paper for ideas and v ariations, becasue over the weeks and mmotnhs and wiht playing upt to a dozen matches simulatenously one could lose track of things. By the end of the match I often had 20-30 pages per match.

[mapuc]

A little funny chess related limerick

Me and I play chess together
In the effort to be better
Before meeting a real pro
It became a real blow

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

A little funny chess related limerick

Me and I play chess together
In the effort to be better
Before meeting a real pro
It became a real blow

Markus

Scherzkeks!