U.S. Gov charging american citizens for "ferry" out of Beirut????

Ducimus · 07-18-06, 09:46 PM

*shrug*

Im honestly not suprised that they orginaly charged for it. Goverment does alot of stupid crap. Only thing i dont understand, is why.. why would any US citizen want to go and live in Lebenon or any other country in that part of the world?! When it comes to "bad things that can happen to you", i would think living anywhere near that part of the world is just asking for it.

bradclark1 · 07-18-06, 10:07 PM

It's what bigboywooly said. It's the draw of the dollar.

Ducimus · 07-18-06, 10:42 PM

Thats not saying much. How so? What are they dong that make so much money? And i dont mean dodging taxes either.

Money would have to be pretty damn good to put your head in a place where someone might want to cut it off when you least expect it.

bigboywooly · 07-18-06, 11:08 PM

Theres an awfull lot of construction going on over there to rebuild the last lot of trouble
And typically these sort of countries look to the west for the expertise
Hell there are already western companies in Iraq rebuilding
But like Decimus says - if you put yourself in that position you have noone to blame but yourself

Onkel Neal · 07-18-06, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Theres an awfull lot of construction going on over there to rebuild the last lot of trouble
And typically these sort of countries look to the west for the expertise
Hell there are already western companies in Iraq rebuilding
But like Decimus says - if you put yourself in that position you have noone to blame but yourself

No kidding. There are lots of civilized parts of the world I haven't seen yet, I'll skip those places.

August · 07-18-06, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Theres an awfull lot of construction going on over there to rebuild the last lot of trouble
And typically these sort of countries look to the west for the expertise
Hell there are already western companies in Iraq rebuilding
But like Decimus says - if you put yourself in that position you have noone to blame but yourself

Yep. I would make 10 years pay in 6 months working in my field in the ME. Of course 10 years pay doesn't do me any good if I get my head chopped off by some fanatic or get blown up by a stray bomb or missle.

scandium · 07-19-06, 01:35 AM

#1 Lebanon was not a war zone until Israel began bombing and ivaded it.

#2 Lebanon is not Iraq or Saudi Arabia. They are a small democratic country (population: 4 million total), and one of the most progressive countries in the region. To talk about it as though it were Saudi Arabia not only does the place a disservice, it makes the poster appear ignorant.

#3 Not only is it a democracy, half of its Parliment is Christian, and English, French, and Armenian are widely spoken there just as Arabic is.

The hypocracy on display here astounds me. Lebanon is precisely the kind of peaceful progressive democracy that the US envisioned Iraq as becoming after the toppling of Saddam Hussein, one of the "dominoes" that once knocked over would cause democracy to spread like wildfire through the ME (the Republican domino democracy theory).

Unfortunately a group of militants formed to fight the IDF during the Israeli occupation of Lebanon commits the tragic stupidity of firing rockets at an Israeli town and kidnapping a pair of Israeli soldiers, and even though this was done without the knowledge, approval, sanction, or plan of the democratic Lebanesegovernment, Isreal - a US client state - decides to undo all of this progress and reduce the country to the same kind of stone age that so much of the rest ME is, and the attitude is "what a hell hole, and people who live there ask for it anyway".

joea · 07-19-06, 02:35 AM

Don't forget, I don't know about the United States, but there are loads of immigrants in Canada who have family and visit often. 21,000 registered alone, weren't there lots of Lebanese Christians who went to the USA too??

basilio · 07-19-06, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by scandium

The hypocracy on display here astounds me.

I totally agree.
I usually visit the SH3's section forum, and was absolutely shocked to read on this board how many people think that this war is "justified".
While I FULLY respect everybody's opinion, I can't stop worring about all the civilians that were/are being killed everyday.

07-18-06, 11:08 PM	#4
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07-19-06, 01:35 AM	#7
scandium Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,098 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	#1 Lebanon was not a war zone until Israel began bombing and ivaded it. #2 Lebanon is not Iraq or Saudi Arabia. They are a small democratic country (population: 4 million total), and one of the most progressive countries in the region. To talk about it as though it were Saudi Arabia not only does the place a disservice, it makes the poster appear ignorant. #3 Not only is it a democracy, half of its Parliment is Christian, and English, French, and Armenian are widely spoken there just as Arabic is. The hypocracy on display here astounds me. Lebanon is precisely the kind of peaceful progressive democracy that the US envisioned Iraq as becoming after the toppling of Saddam Hussein, one of the "dominoes" that once knocked over would cause democracy to spread like wildfire through the ME (the Republican domino democracy theory). Unfortunately a group of militants formed to fight the IDF during the Israeli occupation of Lebanon commits the tragic stupidity of firing rockets at an Israeli town and kidnapping a pair of Israeli soldiers, and even though this was done without the knowledge, approval, sanction, or plan of the democratic Lebanesegovernment, Isreal - a US client state - decides to undo all of this progress and reduce the country to the same kind of stone age that so much of the rest ME is, and the attitude is "what a hell hole, and people who live there ask for it anyway". __________________ What can you do against the lunatic who is more intelligent than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and then simply persists in his lunacy? -- George Orwell

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07-18-06, 09:46 PM	#1
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	shrug Im honestly not suprised that they orginaly charged for it. Goverment does alot of stupid crap. Only thing i dont understand, is why.. why would any US citizen want to go and live in Lebenon or any other country in that part of the world?! When it comes to "bad things that can happen to you", i would think living anywhere near that part of the world is just asking for it.

07-18-06, 10:07 PM	#2
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	It's what bigboywooly said. It's the draw of the dollar.

07-18-06, 10:42 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Thats not saying much. How so? What are they dong that make so much money? And i dont mean dodging taxes either. Money would have to be pretty damn good to put your head in a place where someone might want to cut it off when you least expect it.

07-19-06, 02:35 AM	#8
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Don't forget, I don't know about the United States, but there are loads of immigrants in Canada who have family and visit often. 21,000 registered alone, weren't there lots of Lebanese Christians who went to the USA too??