where does consciousness begin ?

[Rockstar]

… Unfortunately for such attitudes, consciousness is not just an epiphenomenon, a strange concomitant of our neural activity that we project onto physical reality. On the contrary, all that we know, including all our science, is in our consciousness. It is part, not of the superstructure, but of the foundations. No consciousness, no science. Perhaps, indeed, no consciousness, no reality -- of which more later.

Though consciousness is the essential condition for all science, science cannot deal with it. That is not because it is an unassimilable element within science, but just the opposite: science is a highly digestible element within consciousness, which includes science as a limited territory within the much wider reality of whose existence we are conscious. Consciousness itself lies outside the parameters of space and time that would make it accessible to science, and that realization carries an enormous consequence: consciousness cannot be located. But more: it has no location. - George Wald

https://www.elijahwald.com/lifeandmind.html

[Buddahaid]

I "think" most of us have opinions about where it isn't.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I "think" most of us have opinions about where it isn't.

Agree there have been times in my life I suffered from what doctors would define as a ‘rectal cranial inversion’. And I tell you with all certainty consciousness is not up there.

[Skybird]

I think its indispensable to separate mind/consciousness from - in absence of a better term - spirit. The first has its basis in structured matter, without matter coming to according form, mind/consciousness cannot form and cannot prevail. They are a function of matter and structure. The latter - spirit - however is and must remain to be an object of speculation.