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Old 04-26-22, 02:29 PM   #1
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519020176884305920

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Old 04-26-22, 02:55 PM   #2
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I think this guy takes himself much too serious.
Free speech is possible anywhere, and Twitter has exactly zilch to do with it.
Maybe good idea to make money, go ahead, i give a sh!t.
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Elon is a Goa'uld bent on domination of our World.


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Elon is a Goa'uld bent on domination of our World.
That's a bad job cleaning up the bloodshot eyes...
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Free speech is possible anywhere,
Only thta polls show that many Germans say they do not dare to speak out their free opinion anymore due to social sanctions and ****storms. Many platforms also are heavily policed by ideologically driven thought controllers. German Wikipedia for example is famous for it. Thre abuse ios form both sides: the indeed extremeists, and the guardians who want to install de facto censorship of legal or social means in defence of nobody being offended, nboody feeling hurt and nobody feeling walked upon.



Dont like an opinion you read? Claim an micro aggression, refer to your sensitivity and how hurt you felt, and the pack howls in your favour.



Somebody once said it best: either talking about what free speech is allowed to say and what not - or simply having free speech.
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Following is copied from a Danish politician and translated

"Now begins prominent Black Lives Matter, woke, left-leaning, US-liberal and Cancel Culture supporters
to leave twitter - they do not like freedom of speech."

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Old 04-26-22, 05:00 PM   #7
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I think he bought it because they tried to censor HIS free speech? Revenge buyout?
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Old 10-28-22, 08:27 AM   #8
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What Musks see that most people don't is that numbers matter.


If you have a platform which concentrates one part of the political spectrum, either left or right, you are not touching everyone. Currently, Twitter seems to be more left-biased than right-biased (seeing that they did censor information reported by a major journal, the New York Times, when they reported information that was 100 % factual - censoring one of the major press in the USA is a huge, huge mistake).


Musks wants a platform, and he said it clearly, for MARKETING.
He wants a platform with both left and right oriented people.
Sure... those two factions in the USA are gonna wage war online, but meanwhile, Musks will be able to push MARKETING to both sides because BOTH sides will be online on that platform.




He wants both "factions" from opposite sides of the political spectrum to be online in the same agora. So he can then market those audiences to the groups that want to push marketing there.


He wants to do with Twitter what Google has become : first, and foremost, a marketing company.


Google is not about search. It is about marketing :




He's stating his point of view clearly.


He wants everyone in that platform.
And he will use the law of each country to find out what can be allowed, and what has to be removed, country by country (which is going to be a little weird, because some countries will accept content that other countries will not, and Twitter is a global Internet platform).


People will fight online, and on each sides we'll have people freaking out. For sure.


But Musk will be able to market to everyone at the same time by avoiding the platform to be either an echo chamber for the left, or the right.


He's looking beyond the political divide and will try to replicate what made Google so powerful and rich : turn the company into a marketing tool.
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Elvis has left the building!

No, wait those were Twitter Executives!
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What I'm wondering is why he wants the company to become private.


A private company doesn't have to publish a lot of information about its internal financial status compared to a company that is listed on the market.


There's also the question about control through shares.


I'm not into finance enough to know or understand why or how taking the company private is as important as it seems.
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A comment on Musk written comment about right wing and left wing turn into a echo chamber.

Well people are doing this by them self. Around 90 % of my friends on FB who belong to one of these political wings has blocked the opposite.

People belonging to right or left will still block each other-so Musk have to learn how to live with this echo chamber.

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I never registered to any of those things. No twitter, no facebook. Nothing.
Well I guess I'm too old and rusty for those things


Just give me a boat and a heading


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A private company also doesn't have to make long term decisions based on the short term profit goals of it's investors.
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Buying Twitter is an accelerant to creating X, the everything app https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/...NHodV3-DPTksDQ

X was reason for Musk to buy Twitter early this month, after first unilaterally halting the takeover. It involves a concept that we in the West don't really know: an app that makes a lot of other apps redundant. In China, WeChat has been around for years. Basically, it resembles WhatsApp, but in the superlative sense. Not only do you chat there, you also arrange your banking and insurance affairs, book airline tickets and pay your bills. It has been a Silicon Valley dream for years to get something like this off the ground. Mark Zuckerberg, in particular, would love to put all those functionalities into one app. Although he owns Facebook and chat apps like Messenger and WhatsApp, he has not yet succeeded.
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