[REL] Re: GWR 2020

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by ridley

Installed following the instructions, takes ages to load, locks my computer so much I cannot type when its loading.

Once it's loaded I can select a mission and it starts to load the mission gets to 100% and just sits there, cannot type anywhere else on the PC either once its in this state.

Any ideas?

May I interject here... & say... that while loading up, much less playing... one should never attempt to do anything else, during that time.

Then, is NOT the time to... multi task... EVER.

Is bad enough, that Microsoft, flat out refuses to allow their services to be shunted so as to NOT have instances of it popping up notifications completely... & run in the background. Ok, some things... are understandable... up to a point... those that actually, 100% pertain to the computer's ability to run... aka function at all, but beyond that... uhh uhh...

Of course, there is the alternative to using a system app/program... that shuts out & down, unneeded things from doing that, but then... there is its own self, running in the background unless it is set up by them, to do what is needed to shut down things & then, shut down... itself. Haven't fully explored those apps/programs in depth to be fully cognizant of them, all... in any great detail, though... but am aware that they... exist.

As for the game/sim... Frm what I know... GWR & 1 Alex's GWX SH3 rework, & think Toyo's set up... do tend to take a bit before it loads... so.. waiting for the loading up, does call for the exercising of a major... load of, patiece.. whilst it does so.

Hope this info helps...



M. M.

[ridley]

"hope this helps"

Not really, sh3 has always multitasked well, gwx, wac et al all multitask fine.

I've always played in a window, certainly in MP with no time compression it can be the only way.

Besides, I was waiting for 10min+ for the game to start, do you really think I should wait longer?

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by ridley

"hope this helps"

Not really, sh3 has always multitasked well, gwx, wac et al all multitask fine.

I've always played in a window, certainly in MP with no time compression it can be the only way.

Besides, I was waiting for 10min+ for the game to start, do you really think I should wait longer?

Have you not taken time to read through the forums, to see all the posts from others... who have made comments on the fact of their dealing with numerous issues... all caused by multi-tasking... i.e, shelling out from SH3... not to mention of SH3's follow up... SH4.???

Hey, if ya wanna join their chorus of the shoulda, woulda coulda blues... far be it from Me, to dissuade you from that.

Pray tell, continue to your hearts content...

As for waiting for the game/sim to load, knowing that I have seen mentions of up to 12 minutes... by some.. also located within the reams of posts across the spectrum of the SH3 threads section here...

I can't tell you to wait... or not to wait... that, is all up to you. All I can do, is to inform you... that it has been mentioned by other SH3 players... of having long wait times... & considering that SH3.. is now.. what... coming up on... 17 years, to the date (March 15th, 2005)

then add in heavy modifying it... all adds up to the likelihood, of it taking longer, before it boots up...

And all this, is NOT even touching any nudging, modifying... etc, of settings that may or may NOT have to be done, on all the different computers, to get it to work... at all.

Or, the new things, coming down the pipe as it pertains to computers, themselves...

As grand as SH3 is... there is going to come a time... when that time comes, unfortunately & sadly, it will join other games/sims in the annals of history of what was... before.

I seriously hope that time, is ways off... but, I do know, that it will come... eventually.

Until then...

Gute jagd, ihr Himmelhunde.!



M. M,

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

As for waiting for the game/sim to load, knowing that I have seen mentions of up to 12 minutes... by some.. also located within the reams of posts across the spectrum of the SH3 threads section here...

I can't tell you to wait... or not to wait... that, is all up to you. All I can do, is to inform you... that it has been mentioned by other SH3 players... of having long wait times... & considering that SH3.. is now.. what... coming up on... 17 years, to the date (March 15th, 2005)

then add in heavy modifying it... all adds up to the likelihood, of it taking longer, before it boots up...

And all this, is NOT even touching any nudging, modifying... etc, of settings that may or may NOT have to be done, on all the different computers, to get it to work... at all.
M. M,

Your system has the most effect on loading times.
If you have standard Hard Drives? Swap them to SSD drives. You'd be amazed at the difference!
I run 2 SSD's of 500 Gig each. OS is on C drive. Most other stuff is on E drive. Including my DeskTop files!
I had a 1 terrabyte drive but test proved that was slower! So I did the 2 drives.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Your system has the most effect on loading times.
If you have standard Hard Drives? Swap them to SSD drives. You'd be amazed at the difference!
I run 2 SSD's of 500 Gig each. OS is on C drive. Most other stuff is on E drive. Including my DeskTop files!
I had a 1 terrabyte drive but test proved that was slower! So I did the 2 drives.

My comments Jeff... were in regard to ridley of his posting about the game seeming to lock up & not complete loading... also on their multitasking, whilst running said set up... just to clarify. (See post #803)

Also pointing out, in the event that they... missed the memo on it... of others that have had any, number of issues in setting things up, or lack of it therein... of long load times... & the ever loved... *snorts* lag in waiting for it to all load up... as well... most caused by 'multi-tasking'.

Not saying it can't be done 100% of the time. but have noted that doing so, end results in a lot of the issues that have been faced due to doing so... from lag/ctd's... corrupted saves... & so forth.

Some are fortunate that of not having faced issues from multi-tasking... lucky them... just that the best approach is the old adage... an 'ounce' of prevention, is the best remedy...

Not in any issues that I was facing. *nod*



M. M.

[ridley]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Your system has the most effect on loading times.
If you have standard Hard Drives? Swap them to SSD drives. You'd be amazed at the difference!
I run 2 SSD's of 500 Gig each. OS is on C drive. Most other stuff is on E drive. Including my DeskTop files!
I had a 1 terrabyte drive but test proved that was slower! So I did the 2 drives.

I have SSD drives, and HDD It is not the drives, the drives would not make SH3 grab all of my resources to the point that I cannot type.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

I make it work just started a career..
but you see what bothers me is your Logo on the screens I find it really unsuitable and very explicit especially at the moment... that's why I don't post a shoot.. thank you for the requests help in the wind I who have defended your project several times.....uais:uais:

[Anvar1061]

Originally Posted by Kal_Maximus_U669

your Logo on the screens I find it really unsuitable and very explicit especially at the moment...

You have manic syndrome. zzz
ZZOZZOZZ

[ridley]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Have you not taken time to read through the forums, to see all the posts from others... who have made comments on the fact of their dealing with numerous issues... all caused by multi-tasking... i.e, shelling out from SH3... not to mention of SH3's follow up... SH4.???

Hey, if ya wanna join their chorus of the shoulda, woulda coulda blues... far be it from Me, to dissuade you from that.

Pray tell, continue to your hearts content...

As for waiting for the game/sim to load, knowing that I have seen mentions of up to 12 minutes... by some.. also located within the reams of posts across the spectrum of the SH3 threads section here...

I can't tell you to wait... or not to wait... that, is all up to you. All I can do, is to inform you... that it has been mentioned by other SH3 players... of having long wait times... & considering that SH3.. is now.. what... coming up on... 17 years, to the date (March 15th, 2005)

then add in heavy modifying it... all adds up to the likelihood, of it taking longer, before it boots up...

And all this, is NOT even touching any nudging, modifying... etc, of settings that may or may NOT have to be done, on all the different computers, to get it to work... at all.

Or, the new things, coming down the pipe as it pertains to computers, themselves...

As grand as SH3 is... there is going to come a time... when that time comes, unfortunately & sadly, it will join other games/sims in the annals of history of what was... before.

I seriously hope that time, is ways off... but, I do know, that it will come... eventually.

Until then...

Gute jagd, ihr Himmelhunde.!



M. M,

I have been playing SH3 in all of it's guises for 17 years, I have logged thousands of hours playing it. In all of those hours I have never had an issue with it multitasking. And yes when I started having issues with GWR I went back to basics and just let it do its thing but even without MT it just locked the computer requiring a hard boot.

So rather than being all supercilious and condescending perhaps either actually try to be helpful or change the writing style or just butt out.

[Anvar1061]

In any case, if I play, I do not get distracted.
I have Game Booster installed and configured for these purposes.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by ridley

I have been playing SH3 in all of it's guises for 17 years, I have logged thousands of hours playing it. In all of those hours I have never had an issue with it multitasking. And yes when I started having issues with GWR I went back to basics and just let it do its thing but even without MT it just locked the computer requiring a hard boot.

So rather than being all supercilious and condescending perhaps either actually try to be helpful or change the writing style or just butt out.

No two computers are alike, and I only have one of four that shell-out to windows without too much grief. Generally though, the troubles with the other three are just graphic or audio issues in the game itself. When the game is trying to load though, it does indeed take all available resources of your system, since it knows no better. Your problem does not sound like that though. Firstly, you supplied minimal detail of your situation with the game or the computer. It's not until in the fourth post that you state you are a long-time player. But still nothing about what you did for the SH3 install or mod activation. Folks have to assume the basics when there is no information to go by for accurate help.

My questions (again, basic) would be have you activated the 4Gig Patch (if necessary) on the SH3.exe? Did you empty the Save folder, or use MultiSH3 to create a new Save folder? If you have done those, then I am out of ideas, unless you would happen to post your mod list, if it is more than just GWR2020.

[J0313]

I have tried GWR several times over the years and I have NEVER been able to get it to work. And right now I have Onealex, WAC and LSH running fine on my computer. So I am at a complete loss as to why Anvar's mod works for some and not for others. It's strange though.

[Anvar1061]

[Anvar1061]

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