Father pulls daughter out of school.

[Catfish]

The argument is invalid because some said that Trump is Hitler? I didn't. I take it the latter was evil but not half as dumb. Also i gave a sh!t Trump's 'policies', he had none apart from trying to appear as popular as possible for the right wing, and saying anything he thought his fan base would like to hear, while trying to present himself as "the greatest" and cashing in donations personally.. while destroying the republican party.

So it is a bad thing to have laws or to demand pledges against things that are obviously wrong you said, or that are self-evident.
Lots of laws against criminals, but maybe they should "just behave" or "be educated". I generally agree now please 1st explain how you do that and 2nd why don't anyone even try to educate them, and make those laws against wrongdoing superfluous. Is there a law against publicly displaying the swastika? Why if it is all self-evident.

Re the OP:
So this father pulled his daughter out of school because he feared she is brainwashed and being pushed into being "left" or "liberal" (while i think there is a difference)
It really seems that education might give you a perspective you would not have otherwise, and teach you to think in different ways, to see things from another viewpoint. Better close them all.

[HunterICX]

Racism has become a meaningless overused term.

I'd be pissed too if I was to be forced to take a pledge and take a anti-racist training course. Just like with religion what you believe in is fine by me just leave me bloody out of it. I have my opinions and believes and you have yours if you can respect that from eachother then I see no problem. I'm not a racist, I don't care what you are in terms of skin colour, religion, ethnicity, sex and sexuality. I do have however opinions and do not act like a singular being thinking the same as others and if some do have problems with that or are offended by things I say then that's their problem....not mine.

What does annoy me is that what we get is a shopping list of things we can't do, say or think about because some find it offensive and get outraged. A lot of people are spending way to much time HUNTING on what's offensive to them and cry that they're offended rather then just stick to their own lives and mind their own business.

I think it's wrong for a school to force their students to pledge to anything and take a unnecessary training courses because it's a waste of resources and could be better spend by educating their students and allow them to develop their own mindsets and ideas.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Racism has become a meaningless overused term.

FTW! It really has!

[Jimbuna]

The final nail in the coffin for me was when we were introduced to BLM when in fact I personally reckon ALL LIVES MATTER

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The final nail in the coffin for me was when we were introduced to BLM when in fact I personally reckon ALL LIVES MATTER

The US is on a path of solving racism with using racism to do so. What will critical race theory solve? Our schools and colleges are some of the chief perpetrators.

[Catfish]

re Jim: I see it a bit different. Black people (or brown or whatever grade of pigmentation applies) have been abducted, enslaved, subdued, segregated and generally treated at least (uh hu) different than white people, for centuries.
At least segregation and the discrimination were still well present in the 1970ies, not only in the US of course, and not everywhere in the US, ok.

After things went a bit calmer it now seems that the prejudice and behaviour towards coloured people is cooking up again, and it certainly triggers an outburst of anger when murder of whatever degree happens. Can you imagine what would have happened with Chauvin if the girl would not have filmed it? Not a year ago i read in a US forum that some man did "not want to work with blacks because [they] dislike them", and alot of other forum members chimed in.

So after centuries of abuse and denigration and this whole BS cooking up again some decide to create the "Black lives matter" idea.

Which is of course not meant in the way that only black lives matter, they want to make people aware of the general situation of prejudice and racism. Of course they could have called it "black lives also matter" but i guess that would not have hit home.

After years and centuries they now exclaim that black lives matter, and the good old white boys from across the street are throwing a tantrum because .. what exactly?
I really wonder what is going on in the minds of some

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

re Jim: I see it a bit different. Black people (or brown or whatever grade of pigmentation applies) have been abducted, enslaved, subdued, segregated and generally treated at least (uh hu) different than white people, for centuries.
At least segregation and the discrimination were still well present in the 1970ies, not only in the US of course, and not everywhere in the US, ok.

After things went a bit calmer it now seems that the prejudice and behaviour towards coloured people is cooking up again, and it certainly triggers an outburst of anger when murder of whatever degree happens. Can you imagine what would have happened with Chauvin if the girl would not have filmed it? Not a year ago i read in a US forum that some man did "not want to work with blacks because [they] dislike them", and alot of other forum members chimed in.

So after centuries of abuse and denigration and this whole BS cooking up again some decide to create the "Black lives matter" idea.

Which is of course not meant in the way that only black lives matter, they want to make people aware of the general situation of prejudice and racism. Of course they could have called it "black lives also matter" but i guess that would not have hit home.

After years and centuries they now exclaim that black lives matter, and the good old white boys from across the street are throwing a tantrum because .. what exactly?
I really wonder what is going on in the minds of some

"Good old white boys"? AVG is right. You are trying to use racism to defeat racism and I don't think you even realize it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Catfish

After years and centuries they now exclaim that black lives matter, and the good old white boys from across the street are throwing a tantrum because .. what exactly?
I really wonder what is going on in the minds of some

You missed the primary target on what BLM started as and what it has become. BLM from my readings(living it) began as a result of police overwhelming poor outcomes(death) for blacks with something as simple as a traffic stop. Rodney King beatings at the hands of the police in the 80s was never a "isolated" incident. There is a long line of Rodney Kings that started before Rodney King and continued well into the 21 century. BLM is drawing attention to this problem and rightly so.

Perhaps the good old white boy does not grasp what BLM is working towards? But the good old boy like many people get their views on certain social unrest from the media that paints it anyway they like. Has BLM grown more than just protest for police reform? It appears depending where one gets their new sources.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Catfish

re Jim: I see it a bit different. Black people (or brown or whatever grade of pigmentation applies) have been abducted, enslaved, subdued, segregated and generally treated at least (uh hu) different than white people, for centuries.
At least segregation and the discrimination were still well present in the 1970ies, not only in the US of course, and not everywhere in the US, ok.

After things went a bit calmer it now seems that the prejudice and behaviour towards coloured people is cooking up again, and it certainly triggers an outburst of anger when murder of whatever degree happens. Can you imagine what would have happened with Chauvin if the girl would not have filmed it? Not a year ago i read in a US forum that some man did "not want to work with blacks because [they] dislike them", and alot of other forum members chimed in.

So after centuries of abuse and denigration and this whole BS cooking up again some decide to create the "Black lives matter" idea.

Which is of course not meant in the way that only black lives matter, they want to make people aware of the general situation of prejudice and racism. Of course they could have called it "black lives also matter" but i guess that would not have hit home.

After years and centuries they now exclaim that black lives matter, and the good old white boys from across the street are throwing a tantrum because .. what exactly?
I really wonder what is going on in the minds of some

Let's be 100% clear. Black and brown people have been enslaving each other for centuries and they're *still* doing it. It's not a person's skin color.

Police interaction with the public in the US is in the millions of interactions each year. The number of black people who have an interaction that ends in their death by the police is infinitesimal. Of the 765 people who ended up being killed by the police in 2020, only 28% were black. The vast majority of them were white people.

One also must ask the question of why violence amongst the population is *overwhelmingly* perpetrated by African-Americans. In fact, black-on-black crime is overwhelmingly in the majority, usually involving male-on-male (i.e. gang violence).

We don't have such criminal acts being perpetrated by African immigrants, rather, African-Americans born in the US.

We overwhelmingly don't see the media reporting the race of a perpetrator of violent crime when that perpetrator is black.

It's not a skin color/racism problem. It's a refusal by American society to admit that the reforms instituted by LBJ have directly led to the destruction of the family unit in African-American homes, and the associated rise in antisocial behavior by people who don't have a father in the home - they see that casual sex, drug abuse, no respect for other people, and no requirement to work for the things you want, is rewarded by the government.