This is a dedicated thread to list all the incorrect models

[shadow_wxh]

This Ship
OTMS = T3 Tanker or LTMS = T3 Tanker with Light
No idea what does OTMS mean


The Model:


Real Ship:

T3-S2-A1 USS CIMARRON AO-22




T3-S2-A1 USS Platte (AO-24)



T3-S-A1 USS Chiwawa (AO-68)


T3-S-A1 Syosset

T3-M-AZ1Brandywine (II)

Comparison:
Design Length × beam × draft
T3-S-A1 tanker, Chiwawa-class oiler 152.7 m × 20.7 m × 11.3 m
T3-S2-A1 tanker, Cimarron-class oiler 168.6 m × 22.9 m × 19.5 m
T3-S2-A3 tanker, Ashtabula class 168.6 m × 22.9 m × 19.5 m
T3-S2-A3 "jumboized" 196 m × 23 m × 19.5 m
T3-M-AZ1 tanker 167 m × 21 m x 19.5 m
T3-S-B tanker 157.2 m × 21.3 m x 19.5 m
OTMS (3DModel) 190.4 m × 30.3 m x17.5m


There are 6 sub types of T3 tanker obviously the model is after the most common T3-S2-A1.The S-A1 is significant smaller ,the S2-A3 only enter service after the war ended,other sub types have ditinctive different profile.The model is 21.8m longer 7.4m wider 2m short.
The ship funnel is too small.The deck house shape is totaly wrong.Mast and kingpost configuration does not match any exsiting ship.



Conlcusion:

I am totally shocked when I find out how wrong this can get. Any ship does not even follow basic dimension constraint have absolute no vaule worth keeping. All of them shall be dismantled and make room for new ships.

Any one wants to take the contract and get this ship reworked


P.s T3 tankers are exclusively American never lend lease to any other contry.

[iambecomelife]

Good points again. I plan to make several new heavy tanker variants, one of which will replace OTMS. This particular ship was recycled for SH4 and SH5, and equips several nations that did not really own similar ships.

When you get familiar with WWII merchant ships you'll notice that British, American, Japanese, & Norwegian tankers often had their own distinctive "look" - I'm not sure what tanker they were trying to portray with this. I personally would replace it with MV "Atlantic Sun" and her sisters - modern tankers built around 1941 and 11,355 GRT.


Lastly, one of my major pet peeves with simulation ship models? Crane/derrick boom position. Booms were almost always lashed fully up or fully down at sea, (as near to 90' angle or 0' angle as possible). This protected the ship from damage and also maximized how much deck cargo (locomotives, tanks, etc) could be carried - very important in wartime. A real crew never left the cranes sticking out in random directions. On the OTMS model (like a lot of other ships) the booms on the stern kingposts are dangling at a 45 degree angle or something similar. I suspect a lot of modelers see pictures of WWII merchants/tankers that were taken in port, and don't realize that cranes are at an angle because that is when they are needed for loading/unloading. May seem like a little thing, but an actual WWII convoy veteran commented to my favorite modeler that this is something amateur modelers often get wrong!

[Mister_M]

Interesting thread !

This game needs a lot of corrections !

[iambecomelife]

Just found an image of the tanker I believe they based OTMS on (note MODERN TANKER). OTMS was not a bad ship model for 2005 (aside from the issues discussed) but you can see there are several differences:

[shadow_wxh]

Originally Posted by iambecomelife

Just found an image of the tanker I believe they based OTMS on (note MODERN TANKER). OTMS was not a bad ship model for 2005 (aside from the issues discussed) but you can see there are several differences:

I think all tanker reseamble each other at some degree.Flush deck,split house,engine aft,2 masts.Not too sure how much other tankers diifer from T3 series. But this one is just way too big there is no way it can fit into any WWII tanker.And what troubles me is many 2020 super mods still includes those wrong ships.

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by shadow_wxh

I think all tanker reseamble each other at some degree.Flush deck,split house,engine aft,2 masts.Not too sure how much other tankers diifer from T3 series. But this one is just way too big there is no way it can fit into any WWII tanker.And what troubles me is many 2020 super mods still includes those wrong ships.

They all look the same when ablaze and sinking full of holes.

[shadow_wxh]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

They all look the same when ablaze and sinking full of holes.

I want to sink them for good