French and British Sonar

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

Ok, but we are talking SONAR here. No...what I find annoying is that people from the ex-Soviet states, all they seem to do is try to put down the US military. They are so biased it makes it hard on the eyes...and frankly I'm bored with it. Not just here...but on literally every forum out there including a military forum where this bloke supposedly to do with Sptz would whine and cry about how Russians/Soviets were falsely portrayed as inferior blah blah blah...

Wow, I'm from Spain, not precisely an ex-Soviet country. Even more, we have had a dictator for 40 years supported by USA on exchage of naval bases and airports.

The believe of the all-powerfull USA tech is growed by books and films.
If you read Clancy's books (specially the last ones), the Americans are the best in all and the rest are poor countries that can't do anything by themselves.

So, the rocked that launched the Apolo missions were designed for Germans, the ICBMs also.
The Atomic bomb too.
Norwegians (is correct the spell?) are the best country about oceanography, and that includes study of underwater sound propagation, ocean salinity and temperature and so on...
A lot of scientific discoveries in America are made by European an Asian people that works for the Americas.

That's because the U.S. have the money and the will. I agree that the overall of all radar, sonar, missiles, communications, vehicles... are the best on the world. But I can't see why not that country can be better in that kind of sensor, and that other country be better in avionics...
And there's another thing: the objetive. You can not have all things on the same sensor and can not put all kind of sensors on the same ship.
As an example, the cats have great night vission and can see objets in movement with great accuracy. On exange, they have not very good periferical sight.

Same thing happens with sonar. The Americans needed a specific kind of sonar, that can receive data on determinate range and frequency becuase their doctrine and the enemy (the Soviet Union).
Maybe the Americans have the best capacity for tracking nuclear boomers, but not diesels on shallow waters because that was not the priority.

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Well you know what I say to these ex-stalinists who've come out from behind the Iron Curtain? I say: if the US defeated you with such crappy weapons/systems...what does that say about Soviet/Eastern Bloc equipment?

Amazing. What a history lesson. All of us remember that famous battle when a lone US sub defeated the entire Soviet Navy...