Iran's top nuclear scientist assassinated

[Skybird]

Regarding Irag and Iran two factors must be considered for understanding why the region is such a hellhole.

First, the war between Shia and Sunni, and the ethnic tensions linked to that.

Second the artificial borderdrawing by colonial masters from the West who set these lines on maps in explicit ignorration of ethnic distribution patterns on the ground, ripping apart what belonged together and forced together what does not go well together.

Bush sn's premature ending of the second Gulf War, was stupid, cynical, and short-sighted.

Bush jn's triggering of a war against Iraq while it had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, was even more stupid. The lies used to defend it, were blatant. The ammount of naivety and incompetent plannign for the time after, was breathtaking. The mess Iraq today is in, is a result of this dilettantism.

The new "friendship" between Israel and Arab nations, is not really friendship, but owes to the perception of a shared enemy, Iran, and narcissism of Arab leaders who want to boast with F35s. The general antisemitic sentiment against Jews are not affected by all this, Islam's hostility against Jews (any everything not being Islam's) lives on. The situaiton has a certain effect of containign Turkey, which slowly raises to one of the biggest troublemakers.

[Jimbuna]

No surprises in the fact that Hassan Rouhani has blamed Israel for the assassination (see link below)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-55111064

But parts of his announcement which includes wording such as "Iran would retaliate over Mohsen Fakhrizadeh's killing at a time of its choosing."
" would respond in due course" "would not push Iran into making hasty decisions." "In due time, they will answer for this crime"

Leads me to believe they will bide their time and prepare to attack a 'soft' target rather then anything major such as launching missiles into Israel.

Possibly even the bombing of an Israeli embassy.

Whatever it is I am confident Israel will retaliate using superior force.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

... Bush sn's premature ending of the second Gulf War, was stupid, cynical, and short-sighted.

Bush Sr. had the backing and participation of the U.N., Egypt, U.K., Canada, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, France, Syria and dozens of other nations for the specific reason of removing Iraqi forces from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

The so called second war by Bush Jr. wasn't nearly as popular. But we went to oust an increasingly troublesome dictator. Could have been we went in to remove a loose cannon and tie up incriminating loose ends, maybe the fear of a nuclear 911 influenced the decision to get closer to Iran and squash their ambitions, or the Carter Doctrine dictated we expand our presence to head off Chinese and Russian influence in the region or any combination thereof. We'll probably never know for sure and I bet there's a truck load more going on than we'll ever know.

Iraq was already divided and once Hussein was ousted it was inevitable that new borders would develop between the predominate Shiite tribe and the minority Suuni and Kurdish tribes. As for ending the war it can be said overt military aggression has ceased. But coalition forces are still operating in the area, still building bases and expanding our presence there. We never left, and I think until Iran's current leadership is replaced with someone more to our (coalition) liking we're going to remain in Iraq, and the predominately Suuni Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.

The new "friendship" between Israel and Arab nations, is not really friendship, but owes to the perception of a shared enemy, Iran, and narcissism of Arab leaders who want to boast with F35s. The general antisemitic sentiment against Jews are not affected by all this, Islam's hostility against Jews (any everything not being Islam's) lives on. The situaiton has a certain effect of containign Turkey, which slowly raises to one of the biggest troublemakers.

I tend to agree, and likely why Shiite nations like Iran continue to blame Israel for everything going on to weaken those relations.

[Rockstar]

As for the idea Israel is training the fighters which attacked Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. I'd go short on that stock, byt anything is possible I suppose. I'm thinking there's no way in hell the militant Islamic M.E.K. or some other militant Islamic rebel groups are training in Israel to fight in Iran. Instead I'm thinking they'll be found in the European and NATO member state of Albania.

https://www.nejatngo.org/en/posts/7714

Bet ya'll didn't have a clue there are militant Shia Islamic 'freedom fighter' training camps in Europe.

https://www.nejatngo.org/en/posts/11183


And to top it off that simple li'l ol' loose knit tradin' union called the European Union? They're probably paying for it.

EU-NATO cooperation constitutes an integral pillar of the EU’s work aimed at strengthening European security and defence. The partnership between the two organisations fosters the transatlantic bond, while EU defence initiatives contribute to Trans-Atlantic burden- sharing. A stronger EU and a stronger NATO are mutually reinforcing

But when your own media focuses your attention on things that really dont matter, you tend to miss out on those things that do.