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03-05-20, 10:09 AM | #736 |
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03-05-20, 10:11 AM | #737 |
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The Chinese say they have identified TWO strains of Covid-19 which means in plain English the virus already has mutated once. The more agressive one is the younger, new strain (L-strain), currently responsible for 70% of infection cases. The older one they call the S-strain.
This makes developing a vaccine more complicated, since you need at least TWO vaccines now, one for every strain. It gets worse if the virus mutates further.
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03-05-20, 10:14 AM | #738 |
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03-05-20, 10:22 AM | #739 | |
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I suspect this transfer of the covid-19 virus in people that don't have any visible symptoms may be causing more problems than we can understand.
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03-05-20, 11:05 AM | #740 | |
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IF antigenic drift accumulates far enough to make a difference. As it is now I dont think we're at the stage of requiring two vaccines for these S and L strains of the same virus
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03-05-20, 11:19 AM | #741 | |
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He flew in from LAX! Not saying We are infected but just goes to show how FAST things could spread! Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 03-05-20 at 11:42 AM. |
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03-05-20, 12:08 PM | #742 |
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I could have missed it, if some of you have mentioned how long it takes from a person gets infected and until this person start to infect others.
Reason why is what have happened here in Denmark today. A former national team player had been in Amsterdam and efter this he went to see a football match between two top team in our highest division. One of them was his former football club.(Broendby) After the game he met former college and fans. So now 13 or more football players are in quarantine and the Danish health department have sent a public annoncement out to the public. If they have met this player(Thomas) shaken his hand, given him a hug or been about 2 meters or less from him. This event - the football match, the meetings between this Player(Thomas) and his college and their fans toke place this Sunday(1 March) Therefor how long does it take from a person gets infected and until they start to infect others ? Markus |
03-05-20, 03:03 PM | #743 |
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Incubation time could be 24, maybe even 27 days (knowledge point mid-February). That people are being quarantined for only 14 days, tendency falling, I have the feeling is just for practical reasosn, not medically founded reasons. Everything would break down probably if you send quarantined shifts home for almost 4 instead of 2 weeks. As I said yesterday, in some German hospitals contact persons in hospital staff teamsare not beign send into quarantine anymore at all, and worsE: in more and more hospitals and care institutions they must do like this.
Everybody who can should practice self-isolation now: avoid social and practical opportunities where oyu expose yourself to the risk coming form having to endure close proximity to other people. Avoid public transportation like trains, subways, busses. Evade and avoid, reject and refuse. Pharmacies more and more even run out of isopropyl alcohol and ethanol to create your own desinfectants (with water, glycerine). Vodka and Malts will be out next. Thats the time when it really gets hard.
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03-05-20, 03:06 PM | #744 |
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03-05-20, 03:28 PM | #745 |
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On Taiwan. I never liked this appeasing One-China-Policy thing.
http://translate.google.com/translat...F25613942.html
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03-05-20, 03:31 PM | #746 |
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Quick talk about S type and L type and the possibility of being infected by both.
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03-05-20, 05:19 PM | #747 | |||
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Washington state confirms 20 more cases, 1 new death.
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Currently in Italy, the number of those infected requiring hospitalization (2,141) vs home isolation (1,155) is almost double. I keep reading reports that on average, only 20% of infected people require hospitalization. This is way higher than that. Perhaps northern Italy has a large elderly population, or maybe this virus is more dangerous than first thought. Even more disturbing is only 414 patients have recovered so far. I'm wondering if they are seeing increasing numbers of relapses or reinfections like in China. Last edited by Traveller; 03-05-20 at 05:50 PM. |
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03-05-20, 05:34 PM | #748 | |
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Lovely.
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03-05-20, 05:37 PM | #749 |
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@ Skybird.
Thank you for your answer. It was not exactly what I was asking. So I will create an example Person A get infected on day zero time zero(let pretend he shake hand with another person around noon-12 pm) We know or I have been told this virus infect during its Incubation time. What I would like to know is, when does Person A start to infect others ? Is it after time zero+12 hours or time zero+24 hours or later ? Because if it's after 24 hours or earlier then those young men who had been near this Danish Football player(Thomas)can have infected others, before they had been told they could be infected. Markus |
03-05-20, 05:42 PM | #750 | |
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Far more dangerous? Not likely, doctors, nurses, geneticists, scientists, all 'medical professionals' have a pretty good understanding how coronavirus including COVID-19 works. I would even go so far as to say the mystery is pretty much over. We also have a truck load of statistical information on how and who it affects by age group. We should know by now it is the elderly who are going to get hit hardest by this virus outbreak as is the case with even the common flu. Italy's elderly makes up almost 25% of their population. Only country I know of that has more is Japan. I expect death rates to be much higher in those countries for that reason.
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