Fixing first four littoral combat ships not worth it, US Navy says

Jimbuna · 02-14-20, 10:58 AM

The Chinese wouldn't buy them, they'd simply copy them

Bilge_Rat · 02-14-20, 11:28 AM

The whole concept of the Littoral Combat ships never made much sense to me. I always saw it as just the U.S. Navy's response to trying to stay relevant in the wake of 9/11.

Skybird · 02-14-20, 12:08 PM

I always was a bit underwhelmed by the idea and concept or corvette-sized ships, to which LCS compares. On the smaller end: fast attack and patrol boats, and on the bigger end: frigates, okay, makes sense. But corvettes, LCS? When a patrol boat is not sufficient, i would not dare to send just a corvette, and when a frigate is overkill, why not sending a patrol boat.

Its a class that makes little sense to me. Like the endless list of different models in Samsung' cellphone and tablet lineup: you could cut it by two thirds and still would have a diversity that covers every market and customer segment.

Mr Quatro · 02-19-20, 06:18 PM

Why can't they use them in the Navy Reserve Fleet to train sailors?
Like maybe even one in the Great Lakes at Naval Training center.

They have lots of old navy ships in mothballs too. No reason to cut them up
and destroy them.

Catfish · 02-20-20, 02:19 AM

I may be wrong but weren't those the ships that suffered from corrosion with their aluminium/magnesium alloy hulls?

If, then put them aways from salt water (on the great lakes?) and use them for training

em2nought · 02-20-20, 04:17 AM

Brought to you by the same great minds that brought you blueberries.

Rufus Shinra · 02-20-20, 07:10 AM

Ah, the LCS, the result of trying to shove Powerpoint-level innovation at the cost of budget, delays and performance. I remember that saga making me go WTF for years with huge under-equipped ships showing low levels of reliability and little capability compared to frigates made everywhere else.

Second rank ships are supposed to be cheap and reliable, and it's a good thing the LCS are finally getting recognized as neither by the purse holders.

02-14-20, 10:58 AM	#1
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02-14-20, 11:28 AM	#2
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	The whole concept of the Littoral Combat ships never made much sense to me. I always saw it as just the U.S. Navy's response to trying to stay relevant in the wake of 9/11. __________________

02-14-20, 12:08 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,674 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I always was a bit underwhelmed by the idea and concept or corvette-sized ships, to which LCS compares. On the smaller end: fast attack and patrol boats, and on the bigger end: frigates, okay, makes sense. But corvettes, LCS? When a patrol boat is not sufficient, i would not dare to send just a corvette, and when a frigate is overkill, why not sending a patrol boat. Its a class that makes little sense to me. Like the endless list of different models in Samsung' cellphone and tablet lineup: you could cut it by two thirds and still would have a diversity that covers every market and customer segment. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-19-20, 06:18 PM	#4
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why can't they use them in the Navy Reserve Fleet to train sailors? Like maybe even one in the Great Lakes at Naval Training center. They have lots of old navy ships in mothballs too. No reason to cut them up and destroy them. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,779 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I may be wrong but weren't those the ships that suffered from corrosion with their aluminium/magnesium alloy hulls? If, then put them aways from salt water (on the great lakes?) and use them for training __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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02-20-20, 07:10 AM	#7
Rufus Shinra Soundman Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: The land of the free with a glorious military history (France) Posts: 141 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Ah, the LCS, the result of trying to shove Powerpoint-level innovation at the cost of budget, delays and performance. I remember that saga making me go WTF for years with huge under-equipped ships showing low levels of reliability and little capability compared to frigates made everywhere else. Second rank ships are supposed to be cheap and reliable, and it's a good thing the LCS are finally getting recognized as neither by the purse holders.

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