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Old 01-02-20, 11:38 AM   #1
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<shrug> Ok. I was just referencing that you stated that you had then decided to install Hsie's patch and the ctd problems started.


Seems like a mod conflict with Hsie and/or it wasn't installed correctly would be the first place to look.


yea basically, is there a list of mods somewhere written that is not compatible with the HSIE? if so that would be cool, something tells me it doesn't exist.

pretty sure I installed the patch correctly, I could try again, not going to put this much effort into it, I hate going through this.

Over the years when I first got SH3 and got into adding mods I went through this crap, many here will remember waiting 10+ minutes for SH3 GWX with mods to load, used to go for a walk or take a shower while its loading.

Only to find out it was a CTD because you didn't save the game in the perfect location

over the years my computers were built better and better and the load times would improve, now it only take a a minute or 2, but the crashing it seems is still here and will always be part of SH3.

I've spent hours upon hours, reloading the game, reinstalling mods and even formatting at one time only to find out we really don't have a clue of why these crashes happen.
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Old 01-02-20, 11:48 AM   #2
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yea basically, is there a list of mods somewhere written that is not compatible with the HSIE? if so that would be cool, something tells me it doesn't exist.

pretty sure I installed the patch correctly, I could try again, not going to put this much effort into it, I hate going through this.

Over the years when I first got SH3 and got into adding mods I went through this crap, many here will remember waiting 10+ minutes for SH3 GWX with mods to load, used to go for a walk or take a shower while its loading.

Only to find out it was a CTD because you didn't save the game in the perfect location

over the years my computers were built better and better and the load times would improve, now it only take a a minute or 2, but the crashing it seems is still here and will always be part of SH3.

I've spent hours upon hours, reloading the game, reinstalling mods and even formatting at one time only to find out we really don't have a clue of why these crashes happen.

Up to you. There a plenty here including myself who are glad to help installing Hsie's patch. Anvar1061 is one of the most knowledgable and helpful people here; he asked you a question earlier.
I would bet it's not installed correctly.

Regarding SH3 crashing, there is always a reason. CTD's don't happen "just because."

I've been running GWX with both Hsie's and Stiebler's patches along with several other mods for many campaigns now. Others have too.

Sometimes I get a ctd trying to load a saved game, many times not, and when I do if I keep trying it eventually loads.

I never have that problem with NYGM fwiw. Most likely the difference is the number of units (ships, planes, boats, etc.) in GWX vs NYGM trying to load.

But as I said, up to you.
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Old 01-02-20, 12:02 PM   #3
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yea basically, is there a list of mods somewhere written that is not compatible with the HSIE? if so that would be cool, something tells me it doesn't exist.

pretty sure I installed the patch correctly, I could try again, not going to put this much effort into it, I hate going through this.

Over the years when I first got SH3 and got into adding mods I went through this crap, many here will remember waiting 10+ minutes for SH3 GWX with mods to load, used to go for a walk or take a shower while its loading.

Only to find out it was a CTD because you didn't save the game in the perfect location

over the years my computers were built better and better and the load times would improve, now it only take a a minute or 2, but the crashing it seems is still here and will always be part of SH3.

I've spent hours upon hours, reloading the game, reinstalling mods and even formatting at one time only to find out we really don't have a clue of why these crashes happen.
Also btw, it's not just if a mod is compatible with another. The order mods are installed can make a difference too as to whether they cause problems or not.
That's why I asked for your mod list.

I.e., Hsie's should in general be the last mod installed. Is it in your case ?
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Thank you for listening to my humble opinion. The first thing I do when I get a CTD I check the game SH Validator. And only after that I look for an error deleting the latest mods.
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Thank you for listening to my humble opinion. The first thing I do when I get a CTD I check the game SH Validator. And only after that I look for an error deleting the latest mods.
A very good troubleshooting procedure.
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In the patch Stiebler & H. Sie's V16C there is a module CAM ship, which many do not pay attention to. Need to change
ClassName=M36B
UnitType=8; 102
in data/Cammpaigns/Campaign_RND.mis and Campaign_SCR.mis files, Otherwise will CTD 100%.
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In the patch Stiebler & H. Sie's V16C there is a module CAM ship, which many do not pay attention to. Need to change
ClassName=M36B
UnitType=8; 102
in data/Cammpaigns/Campaign_RND.mis and Campaign_SCR.mis files, Otherwise will CTD 100%.
Very common error. But I think he's only running Hsie's patch and the cam ship is only applied with Stiebler's.

I'm curious about the statement "I forgot about the 4gb patch"; does this mean the one with Hsie's patch, some other one, or what.
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Very common error. But I think he's only running Hsie's patch and the cam ship is only applied with Stiebler's.

I'm curious about the statement "I forgot about the 4gb patch"; does this mean the one with Hsie's patch, some other one, or what.
I was explaining that I was getting a CTD after I installed a small handful of mods,only to realize I forgot about the 4gb patch, allowing the game to use more memory.

After I installed that it fixed my issue, running fine as stated for many missions.


Installed the hsie, patched the sh3.exe, loaded in the extra messages, loaded the wolfpacks and enabled the supplement via jsgme . CTD in heavy ports/lots of loading of stuff.

I deleted the campaign file thinking I messed up the wolfpacks info, no change
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Also btw, it's not just if a mod is compatible with another. The order mods are installed can make a difference too as to whether they cause problems or not.
That's why I asked for your mod list.

I.e., Hsie's should in general be the last mod installed. Is it in your case ?
Yes,the supplemental mod for Hsie is the last to be installed.
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