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Old 11-28-19, 03:55 PM   #3
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Did they belonged to the right wing or the left wing ?

Where shall I start...

Some weeks ago many Jewish tombstones was vandalized around Denmark.

A little week later the Police caught those who had done this...Among those who was arrested was the leader of a Naziparty and other members.

Due to this, a Vehemently discussion arose among my friends on FB.

Many of my friends claimed they belong to the left-I guess it have to do with the word Socialism

While other claim they belong to the right.

I have said to my friends, in school I learned that this party was far right...throughout my youth and adulthood I have through documentary been told it isn't that simple, when it comes to the ideology of the naziparty.

My opinion on this:

I couldn't be more indifferent if they belong to far right or to the left...
What the most important thing in this is that this little fella with moustache threw Europe and the world into a........

Therefore the important thing is not figure which side they belong to, but to fight them with every mean possible-using democracy.

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The NSDAP was as socialist as socialism can go. Goebbels agitated already in the late 20s against the wealthy and property-owning class and left no doubt on what it would mean for them if the NSDAP was ever to claim government power. They just added racism to their set of cards. But the production ressources all were put under state control - either by expropriating the unlucky owners, or by the owners voluntarily joining the party opportunistically, the result was the same. The money was under state control. Private property rights of ordinary households were overthrown, households had to give up items and materials the party ruled to be of interest for the state, from gold to iron, evertyhing was possible.Then there were the voluntary donation actions for Hitler's famous "Führergeschenke" on his birthdays, or such collections for the cause of supporting the troops in this or that battle. Metal was in short supply, and many other item classes, so it made sense to hold many such events. Finally, still in February 1945 Hitler declared in an adress to the party that there is no principle difference between national socialism and bolshewism. The clash between germany and the USSR was none over differences in ideology, but over two big criminal egos, and ressources: "Lebensraum". Conmpare both regimes and how they secured their power and terroprised their eocnimies - and show me big structural differences! There are no big difference. Both were planned economies, both controlled the money systemn, both terrorised the owning class, both submitted the individual under the collective.

I said it before: the claim that the political left is the natural enemy of Nazis, and that the Sovjets defeated a system that was cojpletely and strictly from their own, is one of the biggest successful proipaganda coups in the hiusotry of mankind. Designed to hide that left regimes share the same reaosns and basics of power with the Nazis and in principle both are twins, and offsprings of the same mind. Socialism always ruions society and economy and soone ror later thign sare that bad that the ideology can only be enforced by the use of brute force onto people. Thats why regimes of "right" and "left" origins sooner or later always look the same and establish the same kind of terror regimes.

Thats why I do not join the left to stop or confront the right, or vice versa. To me, they are both the same. I dispise them both and for identicla reasons: collectivism, totaliatrianism, injustice, and brute violence in the suppression of the individual.



I am not the firts one saiyng this. Quite some historians have notied that before. Usually they do ntio get apllause, sicne they violate the holy gospel of today' socialist societies that come in the clothings of "democracy".



It sounds simple or cheap to just point at the word "sozialistische" in "National-sozialistische Arbeiterpartei Deutschlands". But its true, it means what it reads like.
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