Dangerous Waters stock-scenario question

[FPSchazly]

You're playing with truth on? Or you used truth to verify what you were seeing? If you have truth on, what's the need for classification? Is sonar not identifying the contact as a Kuznetsov, for example, or just not calling it hostile? I don't believe they will classify any contacts' allegiance.

[Pisces]

I never played much with truth layer on, but I don't think it will try to classify if it is on. Selecting the contact should show what it is.

The sonar auto-crew constantly scans the bearings for new contacts. If there are many lines in broadband it will re-assign the limited amount of trackers available. And may not keep enough attention on it to establish an ID. If narrowband lines of multiple contacts on closely grouped bearings overlap then they have a hard time to identify also. Make sure the trackers are isolated.

If you get no classification with the truth layer turned off and sonar auto-crew on then I suspect a borked install.

[Abbott]

Originally Posted by Pisces

I never played much with truth layer on, but I don't think it will try to classify if it is on. Selecting the contact should show what it is.

The sonar auto-crew constantly scans the bearings for new contacts. If there are many lines in broadband it will re-assign the limited amount of trackers available. And may not keep enough attention on it to establish an ID. If narrowband lines of multiple contacts on closely grouped bearings overlap then they have a hard time to identify also. Make sure the trackers are isolated.

If you get no classification with the truth layer turned off and sonar auto-crew on then I suspect a borked install.

I have been unable to assign trackers to any contact as of yet. I have been thinking that is part of the auto-crew's function because the function has not been working manually for me at all.

AHH, I bet I know what is going on!!! I am running Windows 10 as an operating system and I was using the / http://www.jiri-dvorak.cz/dangw/index.html file. The game ran but I was unable to alt-tab out of the game using that wrapper.

I then went to YouTube and installed The file that I found here at



FPSchazly site which now let's me alt-tab out of the game. It does not let me minimize/maximize my window but I can alt-tab out. I may not have a good uninstall of the wrapper file as I just deleted the .dll file.

I bet that I do have a borked install of the game! I didn't find time to try again this morning (I got sidetracked playing with my new puppy) but after reading yours and FPSchazly post's I bet that I have a bad install and need to redo it, I might be able to find time for that today when I finish up my chores and a project I'm working on out in the shop.

A re-install sounds like the next step in figuring this out.

[FPSchazly]

I'm glad you can alt+tab now but I don't think that's the issue. Both of those methods just modify how the game runs, they don't affect the installation. If you could record a video of what's happening, that would be immensely helpful.



As I recall, if only snapshot shows up in Fire Control, this usually means you have truth turned on. You have the dots lined up, are you doing TMA manually? Did you actually "Enter the solution"? Fire Control won't "see" a solution until you enter it. Or is auto-crew doing the TMA?



So, do you have track solutions on your NavMap that have course, speed, and range? I believe the only time you can't select a track to engage with fire control other than snapshot is if its classification is still "unknown" (versus being a surface track or sub-surface track) or if truth is on. You can manually set these "unknown" tracks to "surface" or "sub-surface" by right-clicking them on the NavMap and classifying the platform's category (I think that's what it's called, I know how to do it, just can't remember the name lol).


P.S. I'm glad my videos are helping out

[Abbott]

Originally Posted by FPSchazly

I'm glad you can alt+tab now but I don't think that's the issue. Both of those methods just modify how the game runs, they don't affect the installation. If you could record a video of what's happening, that would be immensely helpful.



As I recall, if only snapshot shows up in Fire Control, this usually means you have truth turned on. You have the dots lined up, are you doing TMA manually? Did you actually "Enter the solution"? Fire Control won't "see" a solution until you enter it. Or is auto-crew doing the TMA?



So, do you have track solutions on your NavMap that have course, speed, and range? I believe the only time you can't select a track to engage with fire control other than snapshot is if its classification is still "unknown" (versus being a surface track or sub-surface track) or if truth is on. You can manually set these "unknown" tracks to "surface" or "sub-surface" by right-clicking them on the NavMap and classifying the platform's category (I think that's what it's called, I know how to do it, just can't remember the name lol).


P.S. I'm glad my videos are helping out

I like the sound of a "borked install" better then "operator failure" but I think that you are correct. It's me not getting it right. I did not have these issues with 688 (i) but DW is a whole new ball game. It looks like I need to pay attention a bit more in your YouTube class.

[Abbott]

One other thing is that I am running at 1920x1080 resolution and that setting is unavailable on the installation program of the Windows 10 fix that I am using. As above I can alt-tab out of the game now which of course is extremely helpful. I am assuming that resolution is the reason I cannot min/max my game window.

[FPSchazly]

I wouldn't hesitate to blame any issues on Dangerous Waters lol. It's old, dead software (to the developer, at least).

[Abbott]

Originally Posted by FPSchazly

You're playing with truth on? Or you used truth to verify what you were seeing? If you have truth on, what's the need for classification? Is sonar not identifying the contact as a Kuznetsov, for example, or just not calling it hostile? I don't believe they will classify any contacts' allegiance.

I turned "truth" on after three or four run throughs of the scenario because I could not understand what is going on. I still don't. Before that I hadn't used it because I don't care to play the game with it on. I have the auto-crew switched on while I learn the game I'm not all that great with manual detection yet. I'm getting no classifications at all. Nothing other then a snap shot appears in fire control even though I have the dots lined up nicely on the center thread in TMA.