Things I definitely DON'T want in Wolfpack

ceh · 10-13-19, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Elphaba

Oh really.... yawn.

My apologies, I stand happily corrected

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Originally Posted by blackswan40

Ho Mighty Neptune forgive them for they know not what they do!!!

ceh have you booked your free eye test at specsavers also we havn't been keeping our hears to the ground of late have we.

Guess who's been modding Wolfpack?
[...]
Elphaba is to Wolfpack what Mr R.J.Mitchell was to the Spitfire!!!

Oh -expletive-.

Not only we do have a lady, but a modder to boot.

Eye exam to be scheduled ASAP, in the meantime I'm heading to the corner to be embarrassed.

Seriously now - I didn't mean to be rude or anything, it was just an assumption based on probability I guess.

Skybird · 10-14-19, 07:12 AM

The taste of some must not be command to others. Leave screenshots yes or no to server administrators setting up the session. And what single players do, must not be a concern to anyone else except - individual single players making their choice themselves.

JuanLiquid · 10-14-19, 10:42 AM

I'd like external view only in a previously recorded gameplay (like you can do in IL2 1946)

abaileyatd · 10-14-19, 12:25 PM

I don't think there has ever been a more misunderstood subsim than Wolfpack... and I get it, everyone is hungry for more Silent Hunters... but I think the premise and uniqueness of this sim goes way over some people's heads sometimes. What ceh said about difficulty trending towards the lowest common denominator is totally true. This is not at it's heart a single player game, and so the whims of individual players must not -necessarily- be indulged at every turn or you risk ruining what makes Wolfpack so special in the first place. I mean holy moly can't people who want a single player game where you can cheat just play Silent Hunter? I don't get it.

Sailor Steve · 02-12-20, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by abaileyatd

I don't think there has ever been a more misunderstood subsim than Wolfpack... but I think the premise and uniqueness of this sim goes way over some people's heads sometimes... This is not at it's heart a single player game, and so the whims of individual players must not -necessarily- be indulged at every turn or you risk ruining what makes Wolfpack so special in the first place.

I don't play Wolfpack. I don't want to play Wolfpack. So why am I responding to this line of commentary? I remember years of players complaining that Silent Hunter (any of them) doesn't have a multiplayer component. Several members tried to get me involved, and I had to explain that - except for the possible case of combat flight sims - multiplayer just doesn't appeal to me.

All that said, I can understand why so many like it and pushed for a game like that. They pushed, and got what they wanted. And now that there is a multiplayer sub sim available, people are complaining that multiplayer isn't enough. They want single player elements too. I just don't get it.

Fidd · 02-13-20, 06:13 PM

It's quite simple: Single player enables you to learn, practice, make mistakes and correct them without disappointing other players (especially in the captain role) because you make a rookie mistake and get spotted.

Multiplayer is an entirely different experience. With a good crew it's all about good teamwork, accuracy and efficiency in all roles, and much greater situational awareness requirements, especially of the captain. It's also a laugh, as you get to know your ship-mates, so it's a social experience as much as a technical or tactical one.

There's value in both, and indeed the game is much stronger for allowing players to do either as they please.. imho of course.

Lost At Sea · 10-14-19, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JuanLiquid

I'd like external view only in a previously recorded gameplay (like you can do in IL2 1946)

That will fix my need for external views very nicely

, and should hopefully stop other folks who absolutely do not know me from calling me a cheat...

But then some will argue that Prien never had the luxury to review at leisure his attack at Scapa Flow.
This whole affair may not be settled yet.

Cheers,
Lost

VonHoffman · 11-30-19, 11:05 PM

Make it an option.

What the devs must be careful not to do is add features that detract from the SIMULATION development aspects that are actually needed.

Camera angles can be added before V1.0 release, when the rest of it is done.

As already said - there are plenty of other sub sims that cover any game requirements. GWX and SH3 is an awesome combo.

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10-14-19, 10:42 AM	#3
JuanLiquid Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 130 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	I'd like external view only in a previously recorded gameplay (like you can do in IL2 1946)

10-14-19, 12:25 PM	#4
abaileyatd Sailor man Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 49 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	I don't think there has ever been a more misunderstood subsim than Wolfpack... and I get it, everyone is hungry for more Silent Hunters... but I think the premise and uniqueness of this sim goes way over some people's heads sometimes. What ceh said about difficulty trending towards the lowest common denominator is totally true. This is not at it's heart a single player game, and so the whims of individual players must not -necessarily- be indulged at every turn or you risk ruining what makes Wolfpack so special in the first place. I mean holy moly can't people who want a single player game where you can cheat just play Silent Hunter? I don't get it.

02-13-20, 06:13 PM	#6
Fidd XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Blighty! Posts: 439 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It's quite simple: Single player enables you to learn, practice, make mistakes and correct them without disappointing other players (especially in the captain role) because you make a rookie mistake and get spotted. Multiplayer is an entirely different experience. With a good crew it's all about good teamwork, accuracy and efficiency in all roles, and much greater situational awareness requirements, especially of the captain. It's also a laugh, as you get to know your ship-mates, so it's a social experience as much as a technical or tactical one. There's value in both, and indeed the game is much stronger for allowing players to do either as they please.. imho of course.

11-30-19, 11:05 PM	#8
VonHoffman Watch Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Near crush depth. Maybe. Posts: 30 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Make it an option. What the devs must be careful not to do is add features that detract from the SIMULATION development aspects that are actually needed. Camera angles can be added before V1.0 release, when the rest of it is done. As already said - there are plenty of other sub sims that cover any game requirements. GWX and SH3 is an awesome combo.