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Old 08-06-19, 07:47 AM   #1
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Hello folks, new to Subsim. Appreciate I may be a little late to the game but hopefully this forum is still active!

Currently running vanilla steam SH3 with mods installed as follows:

Ahnenerbe WideGui 1920 x 1080 Final
TKSS18 German U-boats compilation
TKSS18 German U-boats compilation 2
FixAllSubGWX
Supplement to V16B1 (JSGME) (4gb patch enabled)

I cannot for the life of me get the sub mods to show up at all, launch career go to a base where type VIIBs are and nothing but the stock subs appear?

Any suggestions? I Unzipped the U-boat compilations as separate files and installed separately using JSGME
Where do you have SH3 installed?
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Where do you have SH3 installed?
Program files (x86) steam
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Old 08-07-19, 10:42 AM   #3
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That would be the reason for things not functioning correctly when you attempt to activate a mod. SH3 (and SH4) is an old DirectX v9.0c game, written for Windows XP. When Windows Vista came out, they included the UAC (User Access Control) functionality that "protects" certain "system" folders from alteration by the user and / or other "un-authorized" sources... ahem - needless to say, since JSGME is an "old" Windows XP program, it is not recognized as an "authorized" source, so Windows will rollback any alterations it makes to your "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \SteamAps \common \Silent Hunter III" folder. This NOT to say that JSGME is a bad program, just that it is "old", as is SH3.

The way to avoid having Windows change things on you is to move the game's install folder. This can be difficult to do with the Steam version of the game. Consult the Steam Knowledgebase article "Moving a Steam Installation and Games" for their recommendations. If you are on a laptop, and only have a "C:\" drive (don't use the back-up partition), then you'll have to move all of your other games, as well as the Steam installation, due to Steam restricting you to one Library folder per Primary Partition on your computer. If you have a 2nd Partition, or a fast external hard drive that you could install the game to, then create a new Library folder there, and put Silent Hunter III there, as per the instructions in that Steam link... Once you get the game out of the "Program Files (x86)" folder, it will take and keep mod activations.

For more info, check MS UAC. Windows 10 has a further "protection" feature in Windows Protected Folders (WPF), which is a function of Windows Defender, and is not the same thing as UAC - it is actually more restrictive. Just to mention it, but not to recommend it, you can turn UAC off, but that does leave your computer open to potential undesired alteration.
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That would be the reason for things not functioning correctly when you attempt to activate a mod. SH3 (and SH4) is an old DirectX v9.0c game, written for Windows XP. When Windows Vista came out, they included the UAC (User Access Control) functionality that "protects" certain "system" folders from alteration by the user and / or other "un-authorized" sources... ahem - needless to say, since JSGME is an "old" Windows XP program, it is not recognized as an "authorized" source, so Windows will rollback any alterations it makes to your "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \SteamAps \common \Silent Hunter III" folder. This NOT to say that JSGME is a bad program, just that it is "old", as is SH3.

The way to avoid having Windows change things on you is to move the game's install folder. This can be difficult to do with the Steam version of the game. Consult the Steam Knowledgebase article "Moving a Steam Installation and Games" for their recommendations. If you are on a laptop, and only have a "C:\" drive (don't use the back-up partition), then you'll have to move all of your other games, as well as the Steam installation, due to Steam restricting you to one Library folder per Primary Partition on your computer. If you have a 2nd Partition, or a fast external hard drive that you could install the game to, then create a new Library folder there, and put Silent Hunter III there, as per the instructions in that Steam link... Once you get the game out of the "Program Files (x86)" folder, it will take and keep mod activations.

For more info, check MS UAC. Windows 10 has a further "protection" feature in Windows Protected Folders (WPF), which is a function of Windows Defender, and is not the same thing as UAC - it is actually more restrictive. Just to mention it, but not to recommend it, you can turn UAC off, but that does leave your computer open to potential undesired alteration.
Thanks, that's strange because some of the other Mods work ok....I guess ultimately buying a standalone version of the game may help for all it costs?

Appreciate the help
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Old 08-07-19, 02:50 PM   #5
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The Steam version is fine. You just have to use the Steam Start Menu to run things. You can freely copy the game for multiple mod installs, but you have to add them to the Steam Start and go through that. Once you are out of the Program Files folder, then it is almost just like a disk version. The Ubisoft version download I have is very similar to the Steam game in that regard also. Windows won't interfere with mod activations unless there are *.cfg file alterations, or other files that would be interpreted as "system" files. So if the mod only adds new tga image files, or maybe adds to the campaign files, then they will activate at work fine
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Campaign question. I checked only "TKSS18 German U-Boats Compilation" (so part1) and can't continue the campaign from the last save. CTD after loading a mission. Any idea or sugesstion?
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Old 08-20-19, 04:51 PM   #7
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If you add a mod, take out a mod, etc. of that type, you generally cannot use old Saves and should start a new career...
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