Das Boot

Originally Posted by Kurushio

No, Crimson Tide. That is much more realistic and would've won a few Oscars had it not been for the fact it was competing against the like of Dances With Wolves (I think...a major movie of the genre anyway).

I'm sorry, Crimson Tide may have used realistic sets, but the plot and the procedures were about as realistic as a twelve-year-old in a cardboard box. That movie was pure drek.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm sorry, Crimson Tide may have used realistic sets, but the plot and the procedures were about as realistic as a twelve-year-old in a cardboard box. That movie was pure drek.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm sorry, Crimson Tide may have used realistic sets, but the plot and the procedures were about as realistic as a twelve-year-old in a cardboard box. That movie was pure drek.

Agreed. I served in the US Navy on Frigates (not on subs) but still. I guess for someone who hadn't served in the US Navy they might find it authentic just based on the movie sets and uniforms were pretty well done. The way the officers and crew behaved though was a bit overdone though. For instance, James Gandolfini's character making that black petty officer do push ups on the bus. No one in the military can order you to do push ups for punishment after basic training for potential medical trouble (IE. junior person may have chronic case of trick shoulder). All punishments have to be recommended to the CO first and the CO has the final say so. For enlisted men it usually goes to DRB(board of chiefs, senior chiefs, and master chiefs) then up to XOI(a meeting with the XO), CO's Mast(a meeting with the Captain = NOT GOOD). Any one of the below boards can choose to send it up to the next or end the case at their level. If a punishment is recommened, it still has to be reviewed and approved by the CO. Most of the time the CO will want to see you so that he/she can unleash the wrath of Hell upon you with the maximum punishment (reduction in rank, loss of half pay x 2 months, restriction to ship or barracks for 45 days)

[mr chris]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Agreed. I served in the US Navy on Frigates (not on subs) but still. I guess for someone who hadn't served in the US Navy they might find it authentic just based on the movie sets and uniforms were pretty well done. The way the officers and crew behaved though was a bit overdone though. For instance, James Gandolfini's character making that black petty officer do push ups on the bus. No one in the military can order you to do push ups for punishment after basic training for potential medical trouble (IE. junior person may have chronic case of trick shoulder). All punishments have to be recommended to the CO first and the CO has the final say so. For enlisted men it usually goes to DRB(board of chiefs, senior chiefs, and master chiefs) then up to XOI(a meeting with the XO), CO's Mast(a meeting with the Captain = NOT GOOD). Any one of the below boards can choose to send it up to the next or end the case at their level. If a punishment is recommened, it still has to be reviewed and approved by the CO. Most of the time the CO will want to see you so that he/she can unleash the wrath of Hell upon you with the maximum punishment (reduction in rank, loss of half pay x 2 months, restriction to ship or barracks for 45 days)

Crickey you guys in the US Navy have it real easy. Im in the UK Army and you can get physical punshisment for most things and it can be dealt out by anyone who holds a rank above PTE. But they have to be a trained physhical training insructor. The punshisment is usualy given and carryed out at the time of your offence. But for more worse crimes it goes up the chain of command.

[Immelman]

Alittle out of contaxt but you think you Britts have it bad? Try the Greek army ever had a field exercise with live ammo? I have, trust me it aint pretty having real arty fire bouncing arround your position and pillboxes openning up with 50 and 20 cal. Sure they tell you its safe there are preestablished lines of fire and you have rehearsed over and over agian till you can't stand it any more but mistakes do happen. Alot of chaps have bought it over the years.