STEAM REALLY SCREWED ME GOOD!!

[hunter301]

Originally Posted by mapuc

He who have patients...

There's a game on STEAM, I really wanted, however my experience with STEAM or my experience through others who have or is using STEAM is enough for me to only dream about this game.

That is until I read a few month ago…..the game will be released for pc in May.

Markus

Edit
Another reason is I prefer my pc-games on disc/DVD. addons is another thing, I try to download those from the their homepage.
End of Edit

Question;
Am I able to download the game onto another computer since I own it.
I did notice that I didn't download the file to my HD but that it was loaded up directly from STEAM. Does that mean I don't actually own the game, only the ability to play it thru STEAM only?
On Amazon you download it to your HD and then load it up.
You only need the access key they give you. Same as when you buy the DVD version.
I like the DLC because I do a lot of traveling and with it on my laptop I can play it any were anytime without needing to take a bunch of disk with me.
Lately I have added an HDMI cable to my gear and hook it up to whatever flatscreen TV they have in the hotel.
Works pretty cool.

[BarracudaUAK]

Originally Posted by hunter301

Question;
...
I did notice that I didn't download the file to my HD but that it was loaded up directly from STEAM. Does that mean I don't actually own the game, only the ability to play it thru STEAM only?
......

You do download and install the game on your PC.
You then Run the game from your Hard Drive.
Some games will launch before they finish downloading.

SOME (not all) game require the "Steam Client" to be running (that would be the "drm").
Some others, like "Kerbal Space Program" do *NOT* require Steam to be running.


I copy KSP out of the steam game install directory and run it from there. I have KSP versions 1.3, 1.4, 1.5 (2x), and 1.6 each in their own directories in my /home (I'm running Linux) and all will launch with out steam.

It depends on the game.
I have a few others that are like this (varies by company).

Originally Posted by hunter301

Question;
Am I able to download the game onto another computer since I own it.

...

I'm on my FX-8350 right now, with Steam installed.

Half-Life 2 Episode 2 installed, and playable (and many many others).


Sitting off to the side is my old Athlon 5600x2, also with Steam and Half-Life 2 Episode 2 installed. It is also playable. (I installed it here mainly to compare FPS between video cards.)


However, both "Steam Clients" are in "offline mode".
(I haven't tried to go online with both at the same time.)


Unless it is a Multi-player game, you can go into "offline mode" and play the game.
(I would advise starting the game once before going into offline mode, just to be safe.)

I did this very thing with Fallout: New Vegas.
Played for a year before I got back online with Steam to update.


Some Multi-player games will let you play solo (with bots) or a LAN game while in off-line mode.
Although it might not let you do it with the same account.





NOTE: Since I am running Linux, I have the Linux Steam Client installed.
I ALSO have *2* copies of the WINDOWS Steam Client installed.
There is a program that lets me run Windows programs (like SH3 and SH4, Homeworld, Cataclysm, and Homeworld 2) on Linux.
It stores config info in a directory/folder. I then setup this "prefix" to mimic a certain version of Windows.
I have 1 set to mimic WinXP 32bit, and 1 set to mimic Win7 64bit.
I can set directories on my PC to be windows drives (D:\, E:\, etc).
I installed one Steam Client in the 32bit prefix, and the other into the 64bit prefix.


EACH of these Steam installations is seen as a *DIFFERENT* Computer.


Short version of Note: Yes you can install Steam/games on different computers at the same time, even different Operating Systems.



If I need to clear up any of this (particularly the 'note' section, it's messy) please let me know.



Barracuda

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by mapuc

He who have patients...

There's a game on STEAM, I really wanted, however my experience with STEAM or my experience through others who have or is using STEAM is enough for me to only dream about this game.

That is until I read a few month ago…..the game will be released for pc in May.

Markus

Edit
Another reason is I prefer my pc-games on disc/DVD. addons is another thing, I try to download those from the their homepage.
End of Edit

Check if they game is also going to be available on gog.com , it's still digital but no DRM. You can use the installer or goggalaxy (similar to steam but 100% optional and only maintains your game up to date & achievements)

Originally Posted by hunter301

Question;
Am I able to download the game onto another computer since I own it.
I did notice that I didn't download the file to my HD but that it was loaded up directly from STEAM. Does that mean I don't actually own the game, only the ability to play it thru STEAM only?
On Amazon you download it to your HD and then load it up.
You only need the access key they give you. Same as when you buy the DVD version.
I like the DLC because I do a lot of traveling and with it on my laptop I can play it any were anytime without needing to take a bunch of disk with me.
Lately I have added an HDMI cable to my gear and hook it up to whatever flatscreen TV they have in the hotel.
Works pretty cool.

Yes since STEAM is the DRM you need to run it for most of the games you purchase through STEAM, however offline mode is available when you don't have acces or don't want to be connected to the internet (public wifi for example).

So it is possible to install games on the laptop you wish to take with you when traveling, flip steam into offline mode and play wherever you'd like.
Though make sure that the game hasn't got his own DRM next to the STEAM Client (Yes, they do excist and yes it's absolutely ridiculous) that does require a constant internet connection even for single player. Also Multiplayer games require you to be online in Steam for a reason that some games use the steam service to connect or create servers to play with others.

While I don't have a bad experience with Steam recently most of my purchases if available is on gog.com . No DRM is best DRM. It gives me a option to use a program called goggalaxy or the seperate game's installer so I can install games the old way, the way I want, where I want and on how many devices I want.

''but piracy has to be stopped'' Yes, but you're not making a good case if you prevent, interupt or spoil my gaming experience by chaining my PC to a god awful DRM service.

[Platapus]

One of my other complaints about Steam is that it automatically updates/patches my games and there does not seem to be a way to turn it off. I keep telling it to not update and to keep me offline, but I think there is code that keeps resetting it so I get game updates with no choice.


Really messes up things if you are playing a modded game.



Steam allows mods, they even have a download library, so knowing that people like to play with mods and knowing that when a game is updated a lot of the mods will cause the game to crash, why can't Steam offer a way of locking in games?


Because
Steam
Does
Not
Care
About
The
Player





I am trying to play Civ6 and it keeps crashing because of all the updates that the modders have a hard time keeping up with.



I hate Steam

[larrysellars]

Originally Posted by Platapus

One of my other complaints about Steam is that it automatically updates/patches my games and there does not seem to be a way to turn it off. I keep telling it to not update and to keep me offline, but I think there is code that keeps resetting it so I get game updates with no choice.

Really messes up things if you are playing a modded game.

Steam allows mods, they even have a download library, so knowing that people like to play with mods and knowing that when a game is updated a lot of the mods will cause the game to crash, why can't Steam offer a way of locking in games?

I am trying to play Civ6 and it keeps crashing because of all the updates that the modders have a hard time keeping up with.

I hate Steam

That's not Steam; that's the developers' choice. The recent Paradox games allow you to revert back to a previous version and stay there. I've seen other games do it, too. I just tried to revert Civ6, however, and there were no previous versions shown.

Although at one point Steam did allow you to opt out of updates, but I haven't seen that choice in a long time.

[BarracudaUAK]

I just thought about this... one of the threads here I mentioned that I had a game that wouldn't run in XP because version of OpenGL that was required was too old for the new video card.


Some one posted a link to a program that can grab OpenGL calls and redirect,
But I forget what thread it is in. And exactly how it works...




I'll do a search and see if I can find it. Might get you working on the laptop.




Barracuda

[hunter301]

Originally Posted by BarracudaUAK

I just thought about this... one of the threads here I mentioned that I had a game that wouldn't run in XP because version of OpenGL that was required was too old for the new video card.


Some one posted a link to a program that can grab OpenGL calls and redirect,
But I forget what thread it is in. And exactly how it works...




I'll do a search and see if I can find it. Might get you working on the laptop.




Barracuda

Is it the request for OpenGL that needs to be redirecting or do you actually need the OpenGL3.3 driver to play the game?
A work around would be great.