%*#$%@ Sunderlands

[bookworm_020]

Give me the 37mm twin VII/4 flack set up and I'll take care of thoese Sunderlands for you. I'll even clean and gut them for you free of charge

[Torplexed]

Those Sunderlands keep you on your toes for the day when the fly forever B-24s start showing up.

[andy_311]

On the subject of Sunderlands has anyone actually seen one land or take off ? they are amphibious so they are capable of landing on water.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by andy_311

On the subject of Sunderlands has anyone actually seen one land or take off ? they are amphibious so they are capable of landing on water.

In the game no. :hmm:

[Cybermagi]

On Patrol last night, near Gibraltar, we were doing a little recon
close to the narrows when, out of nowhere a PT boat pops in and starts filling my lovely IXC with machine gun fire.
I tuned our Quad loose on those tommies and put a few magizines into them.

The center of the PT bursts into flames, but they are still firing heavy into our
conning tower.

Just when I think "hey this PT is going to the bottom in a few minutes"
Two dammed Sunderlunds come diving down on us!
One hits foreward and other hits aft!
We're taking on water fast.
I turn all our AA guns on the Planes and call the deck gun
crew topside.
after a very intense battle, splashed to sunderlunds and send the PT to the
bottom.
Though we lost my best AA gunner and hull was so shot up and dented (10% Integ)
I had to return to base.

Sunderlunds are a pain, but easy enough to shoot down, B-24 on the other hand
are born of the devil!

[Sacs]

Originally Posted by Cybermagi

B-24 on the other hand are born of the devil!

Met my first one last night

It tried that cute climbing turn lob tactic, lobbing a string of bombs from quite the distance. Must have been Davy Crockett flying the damn thing!

Could they actually do that lob thing? I'dve thunk it'd be too big & cumbersome to do something fancy like that.

[lonehawknz]

That's exactly what they did. Don't forget they had Norden bombsights and so could effectively do an early version of CCIP (predicted point of impact).

VLR Liberators finally closed the air-cover gap that the U-Boats enjoyed in the Atlantic in 1944. Horrible flamin things... grrrr....

The U-Flak configuration kicks their arse usually though, but only because (unrealistically) your skilled, specially qualified gunners, have laser sights for eyes...

[joea]

Originally Posted by lonehawknz

That's exactly what they did. Don't forget they had Norden bombsights and so could effectively do an early version of CCIP (predicted point of impact).

VLR Liberators finally closed the air-cover gap that the U-Boats enjoyed in the Atlantic in 1944. Horrible flamin things... grrrr....

The U-Flak configuration kicks their arse usually though, but only because (unrealistically) your skilled, specially qualified gunners, have laser sights for eyes...

Really? I am sure the Nordens were only good for hitting stationary targets...ie factories and the like. Pretty sure they did it by eye. They did indeed clsoe the gap though.

Yes; the technique is referred to as "toss-bombing". Prior to advanced avionics, though, it was really hard to actually hit anything (depending on what degree of accuracy was needed, of course). PLaying the PC game "Tornado", I made rather extensive use of the technique; what you'd do, is approach your target from the opposite side of a big hill, pull up so you're going up the hill, and the avionics tells you when to release the bomb, so its ballistic arc will get it over the hill and to the target, you drop the bomb, which continues up, over, and down onto the target; you veer off, and so never expose yourself to the target, and (hopefully) its defenses.

First time I'd heard of it being done with WWII era technology, but I have defnitely heard of it being done.

Now that I *look*for it, there's a google video of someone doing it in a flight sim, using... a Hurricane? How apropo!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9333&q=bombing

[Cerberus]

April '42 whilst crossing the Bay of Biscay - I was attacked by NINE Sunderlands!

What the &*()'s going on?

U-boats hunt in packs, but not Sunderlands.

If you have that many aircraft in operation at one time you spread them out & assign each a patrol area - you don't have the whole bl@@dy lot swarm together like flies round a dead dog's tail.

It quite spoilt my afternoon nap.