Death

[Mr Quatro]

At the moment of death that is who you are forever ...

Good, bad, indifferent, angry, moody, hungry, sensual, lusty etc.

forever is a long time ... I won't get into the religion thing, but it borders on the faith thing, either you have faith or you don't.

My ancestors celebrate death with Irish wakes, but I cried and cried when my mother died ... with faith I'll see her again someday

[Sailor Steve]

I'm sixty-eight right now. People younger than myself are dying of "natural causes". Of course we can die any time via an accident, but that's unexpected and hopefully pretty sudden.

With all that I find myself pretty well resigned to it. It's going to happen, no matter how much we might desire to avoid it.

I used to believe in an afterlife, and a pretty specific one. Then one day I went looking for evidence, and after a couple of decades I still haven't found any. That's why the call it "unknown". Nobody knows anything about it, though many claim they do. You can speculate, you can guess, you can wish, you can hope, but you can't know. Those who claim they do I consider to be deluded. I too wish there was something more, but the more I look for anything to indicate that it might be true, the less I find.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm sixty-eight right now. People younger than myself are dying of "natural causes". Of course we can die any time via an accident, but that's unexpected and hopefully pretty sudden.

With all that I find myself pretty well resigned to it. It's going to happen, no matter how much we might desire to avoid it.

I used to believe in an afterlife, and a pretty specific one. Then one day I went looking for evidence, and after a couple of decades I still haven't found any. That's why the call it "unknown". Nobody knows anything about it, though many claim they do. You can speculate, you can guess, you can wish, you can hope, but you can't know. Those who claim they do I consider to be deluded. I too wish there was something more, but the more I look for anything to indicate that it might be true, the less I find.

Well the way I look at it is if believers are wrong then they'll never know it and neither will the non believers ever know that they were right. On the other hand if the believers turn out to be right then both sides will know who was right and who wasn't.

[Mr Quatro]

If you die before we do Steve leave us sign like a strange message that was posted after you die. of course we will all think it's a hoax anyway

See you on the other side! Wasn't that a spaghetti western movie saying with Clint Eastwood?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by August

Well the way I look at it is if believers are wrong then they'll never know it and neither will the non believers ever know that they were right. On the other hand if the believers turn out to be right then both sides will know who was right and who wasn't.

If you're talking strictly about an afterlife, the you're right. If you're talking about a specific afterlife, then a lot of believers of one sort or another are going to be severely disappointed to find out that while they were right about that one point they're still going to pay dearly.

Still, I don't deny the existence of said afterlife, or even the possibility. I just haven't seen any of what I call "evidence".

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If you're talking strictly about an afterlife, the you're right. If you're talking about a specific afterlife, then a lot of believers of one sort or another are going to be severely disappointed to find out that while they were right about that one point they're still going to pay dearly.

Still, I don't deny the existence of said afterlife, or even the possibility. I just haven't seen any of what I call "evidence".

Evidence aside, personally I find it highly arrogant for folks to say what the afterlife (or God for that matter) is like. Most of us can't even keep a checkbook balanced yet we opine in great detail about the attributes of a supernatural being that we have never seen in person.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by August

Evidence aside, personally I find it highly arrogant for folks to say what the afterlife (or God for that matter) is like. Most of us can't even keep a checkbook balanced yet we opine in great detail about the attributes of a supernatural being that we have never seen in person.

My bottom line for the afterlife is, my dogs better be waiting for me. If there's no dogs (assuming there is some sort of afterlife), I'm in the wrong room.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by August

Evidence aside, personally I find it highly arrogant for folks to say what the afterlife (or God for that matter) is like. Most of us can't even keep a checkbook balanced yet we opine in great detail about the attributes of a supernatural being that we have never seen in person.

I guess that last sentence also applies to the so-called evangelists who expound so mightily (for a 'small' donation) on their 'knowledge' of the after life and why their way is the only way...

...and, given how so many of them seem to get caught with their hands in the till, their check book skills are also suspect...


...or as a wise man was explained:


“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

― Mahatma Gandhi




Just saying...








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[Armistead]

Yes, in my early 50's, I think about it. Course at that age many of the adults in my life, parents, etc., have recently died, which makes you think about it. Course, like most, the concern is over health, disease, what could it be., more so when you see people you love die out slowly over a period of several months with severe suffering. But in the end, I know nothing I can do about it, so I try not to worry about it.

I also don't worry about the afterlife. While I'm open to the possibility there's something more, I see no evidence that any religion has it right. For most of them, salvation is based off fear, accept a certain belief or go to hell forever. If God exist, I don't believe him to be that petty. Imagine being a Christian and dying only to face Allah and Allah says to you...depart to hell to be tortured forever.... What you gonna say? Most people simply believe based off cultural or parental indoctrination.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by August

Evidence aside, personally I find it highly arrogant for folks to say what the afterlife (or God for that matter) is like. Most of us can't even keep a checkbook balanced yet we opine in great detail about the attributes of a supernatural being that we have never seen in person.

[em2nought]

After my father died some bible study layman took it upon herself to tell my mother that she won't be with my dad in heaven as man and wife. Really? How do you know? WHY tell somebody that? Have you been there? I seriously don't know what I'd have done if I'd been there when it happened, I might have gone to jail and I'm no violent man. Shut your fracking pie hole! My mother was terribly upset.



...of course there will be dogs there, I'm not exactly sure I'll be there as I am a Trump supporter.



I just hope I die after my 93 year old mother, she already lost my brother and father. It's enough to bare. If I could get to retire for a few years it would be icing on the cake!

[Buddahaid]

Having experienced both of my parents deaths in the past couple of years I have no fear of death. I fear becoming old, confused, and dependent more.

An afterlife? I'll take Navajo Sky Dancers coming for me.

[raymond6751]

I used to be an non-believer, on the basis that any God that let terrible things happen to good people - when he/she has the power to stop it - is no God of mine.

Now, in my late 60's, I realize that God doesn't make bad things happen - he just makes all things possible, both good and bad.

Long, long ago, he made his Universal plan - not just for us. All the chemistry, biology, physics, and math that goes into keeping this old place running were laid out. If the right mix of elements, chemicals, or conditions are present - things happen.

Since the universe is never used up, nor is anything in it, life also re-cycles for us and for all manner of living things - everywhere.

I like to think there is a constant life force or pool in the universe. That is where all new life comes from, and where it returns. All living things contain souls from that pool. Think about this, even a rock is made up of living things - molecules and atoms and who knows what. Constantly cycling and containing energy - the energy of God.

I'm not fool enough to think I have knowledge to explain how it all works, it just does. Nobody has ever come back, except in here say. But, I think it possible that we all have been back many, many times already.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Evidence aside, personally I find it highly arrogant for folks to say what the afterlife (or God for that matter) is like. Most of us can't even keep a checkbook balanced yet we opine in great detail about the attributes of a supernatural being that we have never seen in person.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

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[Jimbuna]

When I was younger and a LEO I was sometimes called/expected to face some potentially life threatening situations (baton only v knife wielding threat) etc. and the thought of fatality seldom was taken into consideration, possibly because of the adrenalin rush?, I can't say for sure. After the event you were often suddenly overcome by the realisation of what could of been and vowed to yourself 'never again'....until the next time.

These days, being far more sedentary in lifestyle and taking into account the increasing number of funerals I visit for family and friends (the latest being that of a cousin last Friday) I take stock of the situations and find myself thinking more of the fact it will eventually be my turn.

I don't know what if anything awaits me after death but I take comfort in the knowledge I am doing my utmost to ensure those of my family who survive me will benefit from my demise either in financial or property terms.