Paris on fire

Catfish · 11-27-18, 07:59 AM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=239237

Rockstar · 11-27-18, 09:11 AM

Oh I dont know if it has much to with President Moron's pledge to ban gasoline cars by 2040. He's stupid but not that stupid I think he would have touted at least one viable solution before raising taxes for that reason.

Another tax increase is slated for January, can't wait.

From Le Monde: google translate https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

There is, in the revolt of "yellow vests", a sense of abandonment of the small middle class who feels like the big loser of the reforms, winning too much to be helped, or being exempted from certain taxes, but not enough to live easily. All in territories where public services have become scarce, and where people no longer see the counterpart of the payment of tax.

Jimbuna · 11-27-18, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Embattled French President Emmanuel Macron has said he will not abandon a controversial fuel tax, as he set out France's future energy strategy.

The so-called yellow vests protests have seen thousands take to the streets across France over fuel prices.

But Mr Macron struck a conciliatory tone, saying he was open to ideas and revising how the fuel tax was applied.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46356649

He's certainly not 'Mr Popular' atm.

Skybird · 11-27-18, 10:33 AM

The French unrest seems to be about the growing burdening by taxation and service fees and the climbing living costs in general, of which the symptomatic raise in gasoline taxes is just the tip of an iceberg.

Rockstar · 11-27-18, 11:25 AM

"You cannot chant in the same slogan: 'cut taxes and build more crèches, schools'," Macron said.

"I will not confuse citizens and their demands with thugs," Macron said. "I will not cede any ground to those who want to destroy and create disorder," Macron said.

But he conceded the increase in diesel tax, which kicked in just as pump prices were rising, had inflicted more pain than anticipated.

http://news.trust.org/item/20181127141830-39x1i

Macron should do what those shifty thieves here in Maryland did. Wait until the cost a fuel goes down THEN raise taxes bringing it back up to where it was.

mapuc · 11-27-18, 01:22 PM

My little experience with people demonstrating is that there is more to it than most of us think.

I guess this annoncement about extra tax on gasoline, was the thing that made the boble explode.

Markus

Onkel Neal · 11-27-18, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=239237

Oh man

Dirk Gently · 11-28-18, 06:40 AM

Great thread. I admire how it hasn't evolved into a flame war given the current political situation in the media and on the internet in general.

Onkel Neal · 11-28-18, 01:06 PM

Just wait

Rockstar · 11-28-18, 02:02 PM

Oh I dont know, France could be burning to the ground, massive protests, their leaders the target of assassins and terrorists. But wouldn't ya know it the focus is on, Trump, his lack of decorum and the size of his hands. You know, things that REALLY matter. I don't expect to hear much from the peanut gallery.

Dowly · 11-28-18, 02:32 PM

Says the only guy who has brought up Trump in this thread.

Jeff-Groves · 11-28-18, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Says the only guy who has brought up Trump in this thread.

I was playing trumps the other day. Does that count?

Rockstar · 11-28-18, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I don't expect to hear much from the peanut gallery.

Originally Posted by Dowly

Says the only guy who has brought up Trump in this thread.

Whoops, my mistake we got a winner!

Catfish · 11-28-18, 04:51 PM

I'm sure Perrriss had less problems with fires if they just raked their floors better, like they do in Finnland

Rake France great again. Maybe Dowly can elaborate..

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,620 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The French unrest seems to be about the growing burdening by taxation and service fees and the climbing living costs in general, of which the symptomatic raise in gasoline taxes is just the tip of an iceberg. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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11-27-18, 09:11 AM	#2
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Oh I dont know if it has much to with President Moron's pledge to ban gasoline cars by 2040. He's stupid but not that stupid I think he would have touted at least one viable solution before raising taxes for that reason. Another tax increase is slated for January, can't wait. From Le Monde: google translate https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url There is, in the revolt of "yellow vests", a sense of abandonment of the small middle class who feels like the big loser of the reforms, winning too much to be helped, or being exempted from certain taxes, but not enough to live easily. All in territories where public services have become scarce, and where people no longer see the counterpart of the payment of tax.

11-27-18, 11:25 AM	#5
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"You cannot chant in the same slogan: 'cut taxes and build more crèches, schools'," Macron said. "I will not confuse citizens and their demands with thugs," Macron said. "I will not cede any ground to those who want to destroy and create disorder," Macron said. But he conceded the increase in diesel tax, which kicked in just as pump prices were rising, had inflicted more pain than anticipated. http://news.trust.org/item/20181127141830-39x1i Macron should do what those shifty thieves here in Maryland did. Wait until the cost a fuel goes down THEN raise taxes bringing it back up to where it was.

11-27-18, 01:22 PM	#6
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	My little experience with people demonstrating is that there is more to it than most of us think. I guess this annoncement about extra tax on gasoline, was the thing that made the boble explode. Markus

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Dirk Gently Bosun Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Norway Posts: 65 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Great thread. I admire how it hasn't evolved into a flame war given the current political situation in the media and on the internet in general.

11-28-18, 02:02 PM	#10
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Oh I dont know, France could be burning to the ground, massive protests, their leaders the target of assassins and terrorists. But wouldn't ya know it the focus is on, Trump, his lack of decorum and the size of his hands. You know, things that REALLY matter. I don't expect to hear much from the peanut gallery.

11-28-18, 02:32 PM	#11
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Says the only guy who has brought up Trump in this thread.