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Old 09-10-18, 09:42 AM   #1
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not making excuses

but i’m sure, after a 12 hour shift, her fatigued mental state played a role in eroding her situational awareness and decision making.

i agree she should be jailed in the very least for manslaughter perhaps.

unfortunate situation

i know i have certainly got off on the wrong floor and walked “on autopilot” to a hotel room or apartment that i thought was my own. more than once in my lifetime.

it’s possible this is exactly what happened to her. she fumbled with her keys assuming she inserted the wrong key in the door, suddenly it opens and there’s a strange man in your home... i’m almost always armed, but i would not have drawn a firearm on the guy straight away.

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i love how the media plays the race card here. and in many similar reports. the race of the officer and the victim are irrelevant.

blacks shoot blacks more than anyone else shoots them... yet you never hear “black man shoots unarmed black man.” instead you hear “one shot in tragic drive by shooting in low income neighborhood”
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the officer has been arrested and charged with manslaughter
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Old 09-10-18, 12:07 PM   #3
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the officer has been arrested and charged with manslaughter
Sounds about right to me
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the officer has been arrested and charged with manslaughter
It was reported that there might be more charges forthcoming
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i know i have certainly got off on the wrong floor and walked “on autopilot” to a hotel room or apartment that i thought was my own. more than once in my lifetime.

it’s possible this is exactly what happened to her. she fumbled with her keys assuming she inserted the wrong key in the door, suddenly it opens and there’s a strange man in your home... i’m almost always armed, but i would not have drawn a firearm on the guy straight away.
Me either, and I think that's simply because we are men and we're not prone to instant fear of physical conflict the way most women are. I open the door and there's a strange dude standing there, I might freak out but I don't think my first reaction would be to put two in the heart without a moment's hesitation. I think I would say Hey man, who are you? What are you doing here?

I think there is something else here going on, this whole set up sounds fishy.
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I think there is something else here going on, this whole set up sounds fishy.

I agree.
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Some more facts have recently been revealed ...

She just got off a 15hr shift, she parked on the fourth level of the apartment parking area, she lived on the 3rd level and went to what she thought was her apartment (even though it had a red welcome mat outside the door) put her key in the lock and the door opened, she thought the man was a burglar in her apartment and shot him twice, after she shot him she realized what she did wrong.

I think she'll get a year at the most
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One has to ask, did the key just slot in or did it open the door?
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One has to ask, did the key just slot in or did it open the door?
from what i read and heard, she tried a key, it didnt work, assumed she had the wrong one, tried another, and at this point the man opened the door wondering what was going on.

she panicked, slapped leather and blew him away

word on the street is, even though news reports indicated she didnt know the man and had no previous dealings with him, there are numerous pictures of the two together in social situations standing right next to each other.
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Her key didn’t work in the door. Shooting happened shortly after resident opened his own door.
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I think there is something else here going on, this whole set up sounds fishy.
WELL I CERTAINLY THINK HER MANDINGO FANTASIES ARE AT AN END; HER KEY IN A COMMON APARTMENT COMPLEX PROBABLY FIT THE LOCK AND THE RIGHTFUL TENANT/VICTIM HEARD THE LOCK BEING KEYED AND OPENED THE DOOR OR IT'S POSSIBLE IT WASN'T LOCKED TO BEGIN WITH... AND THE FATIGUED OFFICER DID A TOTAL BRAINFART WITH HER WEAPON. NOT UNLIKE OFFICER MEHSERLE B.A.R.T GRABBING HIS PISTOL INSTEAD OF HIS TASER IN THE FAMOUS CASE LATER MADE INTO A MOVIE AS IN HIS 2010 CASE I SEE IT :guilty of involuntary manslaughter, and not guilty of charges for second-degree murder or voluntary manslaughter charges. The jury found Mehserle guilty of a gun enhancement charge that could have added up to ten years to his prison sentence, made him ineligible for probation, and required him to serve 85 percent of his sentence, in contrast to the 50 percent that most state prisoners serve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Oscar_Grant THE DALLAS POLICE CHIEF IS A VERY CAPABLE AFRICAN AMERICAN LADY, SO I'VE NO DOUBT THE MATTER -ALREADY GIVEN TO THE OUTSIDE AGENCY TEXAS RANGERS TO PREVENT ANY APPEARANCE OF INHOUSE BIAS- WILL GO TOWARD AN UNBIASED CONCLUSION:U. Reneé Hall http://www.dallaspolice.net/abouts/biography @ GOLDEN RIVET:
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Many states do make the distinction between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter, but Texas manslaughter law combines the two into a single a charge with enhanced penalties under certain circumstances, Manslaughter in Texas is a second degree felony. This charge will typically carry a sentence of between two and twenty years in a state prison and/or a fine of no more than $10,000. When a person is killed as the result of negligence or recklessness, manslaughter charges can be filed. The result can be imprisonment and fines for the person accused of the crime. Manslaughter charges are distinct from murder charges, although they are still very serious. The main distinction between manslaughter charges and murder charges is the issue of intent. When a person intentionally kills another person, they can be charged with murder. However, if an accident or reckless actions result in a death, manslaughter charges can be filed. IN THE OFFICERS CASE: (d) At the punishment stage of a trial, the defendant may raise the issue as to whether he caused the death under the immediate influence of sudden passion arising from an adequate cause. (IE MISTAKENLY THINKING AN INTRUDER IN HER APARTMENT)  If the defendant proves the issue in the affirmative by a preponderance of the evidence, the offense is a felony of the second degree.
. HOWEVER MISTAKEN HER REASONING WRONG-APARTMENTWISE CLEARLY THE OFFICER, A TRAINED PERSON WITH A HIGHER PROFESSIONAL STANDARD 'INTENDED' TO KILL THE VICTIM. THIS IS NOT MANSLAUGHTER(RECKLESS) UNDER TEXAS LAW I'M SEEIN' MURDER REDUCED TO SECOND DEGREE WITH 10+ YEARS AND A FIREARM ENHANCEMENT TO THE PENALTY.... THE CASE STILL PENDING TO FOLLOW HERE:
https://nypost.com/2018/07/23/family-of-bride-to-be-killed-by-officer-sues-for-50m/
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Old 09-11-18, 12:41 AM   #11
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I think she'll get a year at the most
probably criminally negligent manslaughter with a firearm which carries a minimum sentence of four years according to a quick google search
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